Cloak of Mage Armor

[Nifft]

The mage only gets two different Armor Bonus (one from his Bracers of Armor and one from his garment under the effect of Magic Vestment spell) which over-wraps and does not stack.

(Useless side note: "over-laps". Over-wrapping is when a line of text breaks to continue on another line, or when a gift has too much paper on it. )

Cheers, -- N

 

[VanRichten]

Originally Posted by System Resource Document
Magic Vestment
Transmutation
Level: Clr 3, Strength 3, War 3
Components: V, S, DF
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: Armor or shield touched
Duration: 1 hour/level
Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless, object)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless, object)

You imbue a suit of armor or a shield with an enhancement bonus of +1 per four caster levels (maximum +5 at 20th level).

An outfit of regular clothing counts as armor that grants no AC bonus for the purpose of this spell.

This could mean that the Magic Vestment Spell could be Cast on the Bracers of Armor and the Armor Class Bonus would be Increased the same as a Suit of Armor would. Slaved

A bracer (or arm-guard) is a strap or sheath, commonly made of leather, stone, or plastic that covers the inside of an archer's arm to protect it while shooting. Bracers keep the inside of the archer's forearm from getting hurt by the string of the bow or the fletching of the arrow; they also prevent loose clothing from catching the bow string.

How is a bracer considered clothing?

 

[Shin Okada]

(Useless side note: "over-laps". Over-wrapping is when a line of text breaks to continue on another line, or when a gift has too much paper on it. )

Cheers, -- N

Ah thanks. A Japanese like me often fail in distinguishing L sound from R sound.

 

[Folly]

To me the monks wisdom bonus to AC and dodge bonus from level is equivalent to mundane armor that other classes get access to. This belief is reinforced by the fact that a monk loses these bonuses if they use armor. Since we have all agreed that monks are the primary users of bracers, comparing bracers to mundane armor is flawed because the monk class gives an ability to counterbalance not using armor.

 

[Slaved]

People still buy Bracers of Armor

Who? Why?

 

[Folly]

Who? Why?

Monks that do not have wizards/sorcerers to piggyback off of.

 

[Slaved]

No, the Bracers are the closest in effect - they give an armor bonus based on a magical force effect. Normal armor doesn't.

You are attempting to call the Item that is being Questioned as a Key Argument while ignoring any other Information.

Saying that Bracers of Armor are Priced Correctly because they are the Same Price as Bracers of Armor is a Circular Argument.

If you're making a cloak that duplicates the effect of a Mage Armor spell continuously, that's giving an armor bonus based on a magical force effect, and it's closer to Bracers of Armor than it is to a chain shirt. So Bracers of Armor are what you use for the comparison.

Blocking Incorporeal Attacks is a Minor Issue. But since my point is that Bracers of Armor are Improperly Priced using Bracers of Armor as a Demonstration Tool of what the Proper Price Should Be is Faulty Logic.

If you designate them as part of regular clothing, then they count as armor that grants no AC bonus, and the Magic Vestment enhancement bonus will get added to "no AC bonus".

-Hyp.

But Enhancement Bonuses to Armor Class on an Item that Grants and Armor Bonus Stack. So the Outfit with Magic Vestment Cast on it will have an Armor Bonus from the Bracers and an Enhancement from the Spell. They would Stack.

 

[Slaved]

As already mentioned, the bracers are not valid target of Magic Vestment spells. So if the mage is not wearing any other armor, the only valid target of Magic Vestment spell is his normal (AC +0) clothing. The mage only gets two different Armor Bonus (one from his Bracers of Armor and one from his garment under the effect of Magic Vestment spell) which over-wraps and does not stack.

As already mentioned this is Not a Problem. The Effects would Stack.

 

[Slaved]

Monks that do not have wizards/sorcerers to piggyback off of.

Why?

 

[Folly]

But Enhancement Bonuses to Armor Class on an Item that Grants and Armor Bonus Stack. So the Outfit with Magic Vestment Cast on it will have an Armor Bonus from the Bracers and an Enhancement from the Spell. They would Stack.

This is actually incorrect. This is like saying that having +1 padded armor and +2 Bracers of Armor and you get a +3 bonus to AC. The magic vestment is acting on the clothing, and not directly on your characters AC. Thus the spell increase the amount of armor being provided by the cloths. This means that the cloths provide X bonus and the bracers provide Y and they do not overlap.