Colossal-sized PC's?

domino said:
Again, I think if you can get it, PAO is the simplest, safest way to do it.

Same kingdom (animal, vegetable, mineral) +5 (animal to animal, check)
Same class (mammals, fungi, metals, etc.) +2 (mammal to mammal, check)
Same size +2 (nope)
Related (twig is to tree, wolf fur is to wolf, etc.) +2 (person to a person even larger, check)
Same or lower Intelligence +2 (no change in intelligence, check)

Giving us a +11 duration factor, well above the 9 we need for permanancy.

What are you polymorphing into?
 

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This spell functions like polymorph, except that it changes one object or creature into another. The duration of the spell depends on how radical a change is made from the original state to its enchanted state. The duration is determined by using the following guidelines.

*cut*

Unlike polymorph, polymorph any object does grant the creature the Intelligence score of its new form. If the original form didn’t have a Wisdom or Charisma score, it gains those scores as appropriate for the new form.

Damage taken by the new form can result in the injury or death of the polymorphed creature. In general, damage occurs when the new form is changed through physical force.

A nonmagical object cannot be made into a magic item with this spell. Magic items aren’t affected by this spell.

This spell cannot create material of great intrinsic value, such as copper, silver, gems, silk, gold, platinum, mithral, or adamantine. It also cannot reproduce the special properties of cold iron in order to overcome the damage reduction of certain creatures.

This spell can also be used to duplicate the effects of baleful polymorph, polymorph, flesh to stone, stone to flesh, transmute mud to rock, transmute metal to wood, or transmute rock to mud.

And then, there's polymorph, which has it's own description, that I'm not going to waste space on. http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/polymorph.htm

I don't see any explicit allowances, but I can't find any outright objections either.
 


domino said:
I don't see any explicit allowances, but I can't find any outright objections either.

True, but I didn't think you could invent new creatures with it. If so, why just stop at a Colossal Humanoid? Why not a Colossal Humanoid with Improved Grab and +300 Natural Armor?
 


But PAO has as one of their examples a pebble into a human. And a pebble is smaller than "small." Likewise, a shrew to a manticore.
 


Infiniti2000 said:
But, does 'your' refer to the subject or to the caster? :)
Also, under Polymorph, they say that you cannot assume a form smaller than Fine. Which is smaller than one size category from Medium. Or even Small.
 

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