coming back to life after a disintegration?

[krupintupple]

should someone die of disintegration would the spell reincarnate still work upon them? would it be possible to claim the 'traces of fine dust' left over is their remains and thusly the spell could be cast sucessfully upon them?

 

[irdeggman]

Personnally I would say that "traces of fine dust" don't quite qualify as "a small portion of the creature's body"

 

[Pell-Mell]

The spell resurrection specifically calls this out:

"So long as some small portion of the creature’s body still exists, it can be resurrected, but the portion receiving the spell must have been part of the creature’s body at the time of death. (The remains of a creature hit by a disintegrate spell count as a small portion of its body.)"

 

[Claudius Gaius]

Well, one can claim anything... The question is "will the GM let you get away with this?" - and nothing much said here will help with that.

On the positive side, it shouldn't take more than a second or third level specific spell to reintegrate enough of those traces of dust to get a few small body parts - if you've got access to a freeform magic system. Limited wish should certainly do it.

 

[irdeggman]

The spell resurrection specifically calls this out:

"So long as some small portion of the creature’s body still exists, it can be resurrected, but the portion receiving the spell must have been part of the creature’s body at the time of death. (The remains of a creature hit by a disintegrate spell count as a small portion of its body.)"

Doh thats what I get for trying to read after a long trip (13+ hr drive) and fighting a clod.

It is very clear it works.

 

[Claudius Gaius]

True enough for Ressurrection - but the fact that such a note is specified in that spell and not in Reincarnation still tends to leave it open.

There's a notion for a handy spell though: a transmutation effect that changes some old hairs or other body fragments so that they were effectively a part of a creatures body at its time of death. That shouldn't really need to be of very high level either, and might be well worth researching for cases when the body is unrecoverable.

 

[Bad Paper]

bah, let him have it

I imploded one of the PCs, and allowed the reincarnation.

 

[Infiniti2000]

True enough for Ressurrection - but the fact that such a note is specified in that spell and not in Reincarnation still tends to leave it open.

I don't think it's open at all. It's a crystal clear definition of "small portion" of a creature's body. If that definition works in one place (resurrection), it must work the same way in other places (reincarnation).

 

[Elethiomel]

True enough for Ressurrection - but the fact that such a note is specified in that spell and not in Reincarnation still tends to leave it open.

Both require "a small portion of the creature's body". The one defines that the dust left after a Disintegrate qualifies as "a small portion of the creature's body". It seems pretty clear to me.

 

[Nail]

Sorry, but this just *has* to be said:

<cue D.V. voice>"You are free to use any methods necessary, but I want him alive. No disintegrations."</voice>