Coming Soon for 4E - Races of Fantasy: The Elohim

[HalWhitewyrm]

Just got this. I will read it and offer some comments on the text a bit later, but I wanted to offer other comments:
The background image is a bit too dark still (at least for me) and it clashes with the text.
The character sheet has the word Skills misspelled (Skils).
All the extra stuff at the end, why don't you just release it as a freebie? It doesn't really add much to this specific product, but can be of great help to 4e gamers in general.

Just some thoughts. Ok, now to read.

 

[Vanuslux]

The background image is a bit too dark still (at least for me) and it clashes with the text.

Quick question: Is the background image such that if the book were printed in black & white there would be unreadable text?

 

[HalWhitewyrm]

Quick question: Is the background image such that if the book were printed in black & white there would be unreadable text?

Don't know, I don't really print my PDFs. I know it makes it hard to read on screen. For printing, you probably could turn of backgrounds and not deal with that at all.

 

[lmpjr007]

Quick question: Is the background image such that if the book were printed in black & white there would be unreadable text?

I shouldn't be. The image is only 15% black, compared to the text that is 100% black.

 

[lmpjr007]

The character sheet has the word Skills misspelled (Skils).

Now fixed. Thanks for the heads up!

All the extra stuff at the end, why don't you just release it as a freebie? It doesn't really add much to this specific product, but can be of great help to 4e gamers in general.

We want customers to get more value from the $2 they spend when they purchasing a LPJ Design product. For some reason most copmanies when they release a new race or class product don't customers some thing as simple as the company's own character sheet or tokens for miniature play. To me, I think people who purchase LPJ Design products might add-ons like those with their purchase.

Plus we released Initiative Cards: 4E for the fans as a freebie an gamers seem to love it.

 

[kroh]

Holy Thread...!

Product looks great. Is this a race that we are also going to see in Exodus?

Regards,
Walt

 

[lmpjr007]

Holy Thread...!

Product looks great. Is this a race that we are also going to see in Exodus?

Regards,
Walt

Most likely not. But with Lee you never know if this might show up in a setting he is working on.

 

[Vanuslux]

I shouldn't be. The image is only 15% black, compared to the text that is 100% black.

Cool. I went ahead and picked it up and like it pretty well, though I was disappointed to find that there's only six pages about the race and 12 pages of extra knick-knacks, most of which aren't relevant to the product.

 

[HalWhitewyrm]

I was disappointed to find that there's only six pages about the race and 12 pages of extra knick-knacks, most of which aren't relevant to the product.

(Emphasis mine.)

That is what I was talking about in my post above: it's not that the extra knick-knacks aren't cool (the power cards look pretty), they just aren't related to the product at all. And granted, I guess this is a bit like looking the gift horse in the mouth, since the actual content I get is worth the $2 to me, but I feel that, if it isn't relevant, then just put it out as its own thing.

Useful and relevant extras would have been the tokens (already included) and Feat Power cards, including one pre-filled with the feat power presented as part of the product.

 

[Siberys]

One thing I've noticed - there are several references to a divine origin, but there is no such origin, 'least in core. Perhaps "Immortal" was meant? Unless this was meant to avoid GSL/OGL issues, or intentionally invented...

Most of the Monsters are of natural origin - shouldn't they be divine/immortal?

Otherwise, great product, although I'd have liked a fully b-and-w version for printing.

Lookin' forward to more stuff!

 

[HalWhitewyrm]

So I finally had a chance to read this product. Here's the review I posted to RPGnow:

The Demigod is, as you can imagine, the child of a mortal and a god, your typical Hercules or whatnot. The race has a "Divine" origin (see the post above, though), radiant resistance and mainly express their parentage by having a Divinity feat as a racial feature. The story fluff accompanying the crunch is adequate, presenting the idea of demigods as outsiders with varying degrees of acceptance according to where they live. There's 5 new feats, and a full entry for demigod monsters (4 varieties, lore and encounter groups) rounding it all out.

Where I was a bit disappointed was in the feats section, not because the ones presented aren't good (they're fine), but because this would have been a great place to add feats that customize each demigod to be a better representation of the parent deity, a place to make the race truly unique. An obvious example: even though the image used in the product has wings, there's no way for your PC demigod to have wings and hover/fly.

The product comes bundled with a number of helpful forms, including sheets of empty power cards (though the encounter feat power presented in the product does not come pre-filled into one of them) and a character sheet, and token sheets featuring the cover art in Medium and Large size. They are a fine addition, if unrelated to the actual product (save for the tokens).

Overall, it's a pretty good value. Lee did a fine job here of presenting this race (though I'd like to suggest that Lee Hammock's name be added somewhere in the product), and it certainly fits the 4e ethos of non-Tolkienesque fantasy.

 

[Khaalis]

Just a quick note. I would definitely suggest trying to reduce the background image, either to a watermark image or managing to reduce the image to a grayscale version, converting the black (even at 15%) to gray.

 

[Angellis_ater]

Just wondering if this is released under the GSL (don't think so) or the OGL (I'd think it was) or not under any form of licensing agreement?

 

[HalWhitewyrm]

It's done via standard copyright.

 

[Angellis_ater]

It's done via standard copyright.

Thank you.