Compiled 3.5e rumors? (particularly monster types)

[RangerWickett]

I'm looking to see if there's a compiled list of the revised version rumors. In particular, I want to know what the specific creature types are now. I think they are:

Aberration
Animal
Construct
Dragon
Elemental
Fey
Humanoid
Magical Beast
Monstrous Humanoid
Ooze
Outsider
Plant
Undead
Vermin

I'm just wondering if I have that accurate. 14 creature types? I'm pretty sure they're putting Beasts into Animals, and Giants are just a type of humanoid or monstrous humanoid, right?

 

[thundershot]

Whoa... that's the first I've heard of Giants getting lost in the shuffle... It makes sense, I guess. I was never too keen on Ogre being considered a Giant...



Chris

 

[Remathilis]

I'm thinking Giant will stay, there are some precident for keeping them in thier own sub-class (dwarf/gnome dodge bonus, giant-slaying swords a staple since Against the Giants) and notes the Savage Species hasn't removed them (though they did beast and shapechanger) so I doubt Giants are gone.

Then again, I have been known to be wrong... from time to time...

 

[Grazzt]

Its either the FF or SS (as well as Ed Stark mentioning it on his Mortality show, IIRC) that Shapechanger and Beast are going away. The rest are staying.

 

[Gaon]

In the new revision spot where they talk about the gnome it says this:

+4 dodge bonus to Armor Class against monsters of the giant type (such as ogres, trolls, and hill giants)

So it looks like 'giant' will be a type of humanoid

 

[Tarril Wolfeye]

So it looks like 'giant' will be a type of humanoid

or maybe it will stay a creature type

 

[MadBlue]

I think if "giant" was going to become a type of humanoid, the text would have said "giant subtype".

Humanoid goes from Fine to Medium. Giant goes from Large to Colossal (at least in d20 Modern).

MadBlue

 

[Felon]

I'm thinking Giant will stay, there are some precident for keeping them in thier own sub-class (dwarf/gnome dodge bonus, giant-slaying swords a staple since Against the Giants)

Well, all of that could just apply to giants as in the monsters listed under the "Giants' entry in the MM (i.e. hill giant, stone giant, etc.).

I don't really get why there are specific monsters called "Giants", but then there is an entire creature category called "giants" that also includes ogres, trolls, etc. They're are all pretty different critters, so is height alone enough reason to separate them from humanoids or monstrous humanoids?

Humanoid goes from Fine to Medium. Giant goes from Large to Colossal (at least in d20 Modern).

Right, which begs the question of whether this is a necessary distinction, or is it a useless differentiation like that which existed between "animals" and "beasts"?

At any rate, it does look like giants will continue to get their own type in 3.5e.

 

[Knight Otu]

I isn't necessarily what you are looking for, but once upon at time, I started this thread in the Creature Collection boards. Note that I didn't do much to update it.

 

[Staffan]

I don't really get why there are specific monsters called "Giants", but then there is an entire creature category called "giants" that also includes ogres, trolls, etc. They're are all pretty different critters, so is height alone enough reason to separate them from humanoids or monstrous humanoids?

Same reason the "elemental" type covers more than the four basic elementals (it also covers thoquaa and a few others) and the "dragon" type covers more than the "true" dragons (e.g. wyverns).