Complete Arcane advance info?

[Nightfall]

Better off with Liber Mortis for a good bardic Pr-class.

That or PG: Wizards, Bards and Sorcerers. I know Keeper of the Epics ROCKS like KISS.

 

[Halivar]

With the Complete Arcane, I'm just hoping to find some sort of decent bard PrC. Please.

How about's we get us a decent bard core class first?

Ba-dum-bum-CHING!

 

[Zephyrus]

Even Song & Silence....

Even Song and Silence was weak on the Bard Prestige classes, at least one that a melded well with players who are not just using a bard that is a means to an end. War Chanter wasent bad but I too would like to see more bard P-classes. their's all kind of sneaky rogue like classes, but few that are good for bards. The Virtuoso (sp) ... well... I cant help but wonder what bard 'wouldent' take that class once they qualified unless you just dident like the theme.

It appears however, and some of you may have noticed this, but their have been a large number of 'bardic music' related feats latly. I'm not sure if Eberron was the catylist or if their were just many things already in the pipe line. But it seems like (and I may be wrong) that Eberron was one of the first places to have Alternate/New Bardic music abilities. Libris Mortis has a few of its own as well. All these 'few' however are becoming quite a number of choices, Almost makes me which their was a Prestige Class based around gaining 'Bardic Music based feats'.

 

[MerricB]

I'm not sure if Eberron was the catylist or if their were just many things already in the pipe line. But it seems like (and I may be wrong) that Eberron was one of the first places to have Alternate/New Bardic music abilities. Libris Mortis has a few of its own as well. All these 'few' however are becoming quite a number of choices, Almost makes me which their was a Prestige Class based around gaining 'Bardic Music based feats'.

No, there has been Bardic Goodness in most of the 3.5e products: Complete Warrior, Complete Divine, Races of Stone and Frostburn all have bardic material as well.

Cheers!

 

[Silveras]

The latest Dragon (325) posted the revised Energy Subsitiution (which is exactly like TnB's)

Actually, it seems to be hybrid of Tome & Blood's version and the Miniatures Handbook version.

Tome & Blood also allowed the selection of Sonic, which the Minis Handbook and this version do not.

On the other hand, the Minis Handbook required that the caster know at least one spell of each energy type; instead, T&B and this version require any other MetaMagic feat.

 

[ForceUser]

No, there has been Bardic Goodness in most of the 3.5e products: Complete Warrior, Complete Divine, Races of Stone and Frostburn all have bardic material as well.

Cheers!

My favorite bard prestige class to date is actually in Draconomicon: the Dragonsong Lyrist. What a fantastic, epic idea for a bardic character.

 

[Al'Kelhar]

Seeker of the Song, perhaps?

OK, maybe it's me, but that PrC just brings to mind the image of an ageing rock star who took way too many drugs in the '70s trying to revive his career with a "Greatest Hits of" album. Or a contestant in [Name of country] Idol.

 

[fba827]

(Just updating what i previously wrote based on some stuff I've noticed being said here - note, a lot of speculation/rumor but few confirmed details yet)

Chap 1: New/Updated Core Classes

* warlock (Source: WotC "In the Works") - with a new spell casting method/system (rumor "as heard from a convention")
* warmage (Source: WotC "In the Works")
* wu jen (Source: WotC "In the Works")

Chap 2: Prestige Classes (19 total)

Many of which are updated versions of the magic-slinging prestige classes you've been playing out of Tome and Blood. (Source: WotC "In the Works")

* Argent Savant (rumor)
* Effigy Master (rumor)
* Fatespinner (rumor)
* Geometer (rumor)
* Initiate Of The Sevenfold Veil (rumor)
* Seeker Of The Song (rumor)
* Master Transmogrifist (rumor)
* Mindbender (rumor)
* Warmage (rumor)
* Wayfarer Guide (rumor)
* Wild Mage (rumor)

Even if all 11 of those rumors are true, that is 8 left unaccounted for.

Chap 3: Feats

* Extra Slot (rumor)
* Extra Spell (rumor)
* Insightful (rumor)
* Night Haunt (rumor)
* Wandstrike (rumor)

Chap 4: Spells

* Bolt Of Disruption (rumor)
* Brilliant Blade (rumor)
* Defenestrating Sphere (Source: WotC "In the Works")
* Earthbolt (Source: WotC "In the Works")
* Energy Immunity (rumor)
* Enhance Familiar (rumor)
* Familiar Pocket (rumor)
* Force Orb (rumor)
* Fortify Familiar (rumor)
* Heart Of Stone (rumor)
* Improved Mage Armor (rumor)
* Otiluke's Dispelling Screen (rumor)
* Prismatic Ray (rumor)
* Transfix (rumor)
* Unluck (rumor)


Chap X: Magic Items

* Staff of Entrapment (rumor)
* Staff of Opening (rumor)
* Sending Stones (rumor)

Other
Amazon book description also mentions new magical monsters, etc.

 

[Pants]

No, there has been Bardic Goodness in most of the 3.5e products: Complete Warrior, Complete Divine, Races of Stone and Frostburn all have bardic material as well.

Cheers!

Libris Mortis has the Dirgesinger.
Book of Exalted Deeds has that Eladrin-Worshipping Bard type. Can't remember the name since I don't have my book.

Yes, a lot of Bard love has been coming down the ladder lately and to that I say, give me more!

 

[Li Shenron]

I was wondering if "Geometer" is a misheard name for a revision of the "Geomancer", or is the latter already published?