Confidential Information being shared from bogus account

[Vigilance]

To be blunt, we cannot verify the contents of a PM without breaking Federal and state law. Unless we can verify the contents, we cannot legally take action. The only way around this is to secure a court order. Importantly, if you believe this fellow is breaking the law then any evidence you present or we acquire on your behalf must be legally acquired -- if we search the database without a court order for this message then the message will not be admissable in court.

To sum up - I'm sorry, but private messages are just that -- private. If you don't want to receive a PM from a given user put them on your ignore list.

Ok- I guess Im an idiot and NO ONE realizes what I am asking for here.

I dont want to sue the freaking guy.

Id like to think this is a banning offense though, ok?

Ive seen people banned for being RUDE for crying out loud.

This seems like a ban-worthy offense to me.

 

[Michael Morris]

Ok- I guess Im an idiot and NO ONE realizes what I am asking for here.

I dont want to sue the freaking guy.

Id like to think this is a banning offense though, ok?

Ive seen people banned for being RUDE for crying out loud.

This seems like a ban-worthy offense to me.

I don't make decisions regarding bans. That's the moderation team's call.

PM's are unmoderated. Forwarding a bad PM doesn't work because we have no way of knowing if you altered the text of the PM before sending the forwarded PM (I'm not trying to say or imply that you would - I'm simply stating that we can't verify the contents of the PM). In order to ban or kick someone we'd need evidence we cannot obtain short of searching the PM archives, which is illegal.

 

[reveal]

Ok- I guess Im an idiot and NO ONE realizes what I am asking for here.

They do realize what you're asking for. And what Spoony's telling you is that they cannot do it without a court order. Without a court order, if they did it, it would be illegal. It's not worth it because the information in question is simply confidential. No one signed a contract saying they would not give said information to others. Therefore, nothing illegal occured on the senders end.

So, basically, to fulfill your request, Spoony would have to perform an illegal action to combat a non-illegal spreading of information.

 

[Dinkeldog]

Vigilance, there's a stickied thread in this forum that has all of the current e-mails of the moderators.

Having said that, it is possible to find an e-mail address for a given login for our own internal purposes.

Having said that, the current attitude toward this is to treat it as a news item (which is why the thread was not closed and deleted the day it started). You can always send an e-mail to one of the moderators in the thread above and we can discuss the issue. It is just as likely that some form of the letter would end up on the front page, however.

Unless there is actual illegal activity, then it is highly unlikely that any ban would occur.

 

[Vigilance]

Vigilance, there's a stickied thread in this forum that has all of the current e-mails of the moderators.

Having said that, it is possible to find an e-mail address for a given login for our own internal purposes.

Having said that, the current attitude toward this is to treat it as a news item (which is why the thread was not closed and deleted the day it started). You can always send an e-mail to one of the moderators in the thread above and we can discuss the issue. It is just as likely that some form of the letter would end up on the front page, however.

Unless there is actual illegal activity, then it is highly unlikely that any ban would occur.

So, I've just discovered the world's most ingenious marketing tool in the form of the PM?

 

[Michael Morris]

I'm fairly certain that if multiple users complained about the same user concerning PM's their PM priveledges would be suspended, but as to how many and what for only the mods can say.

 

[reveal]

So, I've just discovered the world's most ingenious marketing tool in the form of the PM?

If you're so upset about this, you should be talking to RPGNow. If the information is supposed to have been kept secret, then they can go through proper legal channels to get the matter taken care of, which includes getting a court order and presenting it to EN World to divulge the information.

EN World cannot give out private information simply because they think illegal activity may be occuring. That, in and of itself, is illegal.

 

[Dinkeldog]

So, I've just discovered the world's most ingenious marketing tool in the form of the PM?

First, Vigilance, I receive myriad spam IMs each day, usually from webcam porn sites.

Second, your example isn't marketing.

Third, are you a community supporter? Is the other individual a community supporter? Is your e-mail public? Is your instant messenger login public? (Note both of mine are at this site.)

 

[Vigilance]

First, Vigilance, I receive myriad spam IMs each day, usually from webcam porn sites.

Second, your example isn't marketing.

Third, are you a community supporter? Is the other individual a community supporter? Is your e-mail public? Is your instant messenger login public? (Note both of mine are at this site.)

My email is public because I occasionally get questions or comments about the books I write via email from people who see me on the boards.

But- my conduct isnt really what's at fault here is it?

You and reveal both seem to feel like I am at fault.

Chuck

 

[reveal]

My email is public because I occasionally get questions or comments about the books I write via email from people who see me on the boards.

But- my conduct isnt really what's at fault here is it?

You and reveal both seem to feel like I am at fault.

Chuck

I don't think you're at fault. I think the person who sent you this is at fault. What you seem to be doing is demanding that EN World do something about this when, legally, they have no grounds to do anything. You've been told that but you continue to make the same demands.

As I said, you need to talk to RPGNow. It's their information and they are the ones who have the legal recourse to try to catch this person, if they choose to do so.