Confidential Information being shared from bogus account

[Steve Conan Trustrum]

If it's an email, that actually makes it easier to track.

Last year, Misfit Studios had an account using our messageboard email to spam. Tracked it down. Contacted their ISP. Bye-bye account.

 

[Steve Conan Trustrum]

If you don't want your privacy invaded then it may be best to disallow that option for your user account.

So it's Vigilance's fault for not turning his email function off? Because him turning off incoming mail would have stopped this guy from spreading the confidential email he received from a party other than Vigilance?


Wow

just ... wow.

 

[Dinkeldog]

If it's an email, that actually makes it easier to track.

Last year, Misfit Studios had an account using our messageboard email to spam. Tracked it down. Contacted their ISP. Bye-bye account.

Steve, this is at worst an unsolicited, unwanted e-mail. Our current attitude toward this is that it is a breaking news story.

Which laws do you think are being broken?

Which board rules do you think are being broken?

 

[reveal]

If it's an email, that actually makes it easier to track.

Last year, Misfit Studios had an account using our messageboard email to spam. Tracked it down. Contacted their ISP. Bye-bye account.

Technically, the e-mail in question is not spam.

http://www.spamhaus.org/definition.html

A message is Spam only if it is both Unsolicited and Bulk.

As I have stated, the content of the e-mail related to business dealings within RPGNow. The first course of action should have been for Vigilance to go to RPGNow and ask what needed to be done. There were no laws broken. None.

 

[Crothian]

So it's Vigilance's fault for not turning his email function off? Because him turning off incoming mail would have stopped this guy from spreading the confidential email he received from a party other than Vigilance?


Wow

just ... wow.

No, but it would have stopped Vigilance from getting the e-mail. Thus the invaded privacy part of that post. And that's really all that was saying.

 

[Steve Conan Trustrum]

Steve, this is at worst an unsolicited, unwanted e-mail. Our current attitude toward this is that it is a breaking news story.

Which laws do you think are being broken?

Which board rules do you think are being broken?

Who said a law has to be broken? Who says a current board policy has to be broken? Are you telling me that the current policies cover EVERY eventuality and there is absolutely NO means to look at individual instances where common sense and matters of privacy beyond the scope of these boards are to be addressed? Are you trying to tell me that there is nothing concerning using the board's systems with regards to privacy beyond the logistics of the board's actual coding and data storage? If so, that's a rather micro view to take while administering a community.

A board member has brought to EnWorld's awareness a case of privacy violations, a violation that, while not doing something illegal or violating the board's listed policies is CLEARLY not a kosher action to take.

 

[reveal]

A board member has brought to EnWorld's awareness a case of privacy violations, a violation that, while not doing something illegal or violating the board's listed policies is CLEARLY not a kosher action to take.

If RPGNow comes over and says "We have received word, and proof, that private material was sent through your board, would you look into it?" I'm sure the mods would do it.

At this point, all we see is a user screaming "Someone sent me private material!" He said/she said. EN World is too big to look in-depth, which is what would have to happen here since it's an e-mail sent not a PM and no logs are, apparently, kept, into every complaint brought up.

 

[Dinkeldog]

Who said a law has to be broken? Who says a current board policy has to be broken? Are you telling me that the current policies cover EVERY eventuality and there is absolutely NO means to look at individual instances where common sense and matters of privacy beyond the scope of these boards are to be addressed? Are you trying to tell me that there is nothing concerning using the board's systems with regards to privacy beyond the logistics of the board's actual coding and data storage? If so, that's a rather micro view to take while administering a community.

A board member has brought to EnWorld's awareness a case of privacy violations, a violation that, while not doing something illegal or violating the board's listed policies is CLEARLY not a kosher action to take.

Of course the current policies don't cover every eventuality. But how does RPGNow changing how it handles business not count as a news story? This doesn't appear to be a privacy matter. It appears to be a whistleblowing matter at worst.

But hey, sometimes different moderators view things differently and we discuss things and come up with a consensus and things change. That hasn't happened as of yet on this matter, nor do I think it altogether likely.

 

[Michael Morris]

It is perfectly legal for EnWorld to use their own, internal registration data to take internal action.

We weren't talking about the user registry though. We were talking about the PM system. The contents of the Private Messages, while readable from PHPmyAdmin, cannot legally be read under US and Florida state law. If you feel differently you are setting yourself up to be sued.

The outgoing email logs are purged on a fairly regular basis to conserve memory. Assuming the file wasn't deleted though, it's a needle in a haystack to find since the logged sender of all the mails in question will be vbulletin.

 

[Vigilance]

If RPGNow comes over and says "We have received word, and proof, that private material was sent through your board, would you look into it?" I'm sure the mods would do it.

At this point, all we see is a user screaming "Someone sent me private material!" He said/she said. EN World is too big to look in-depth, which is what would have to happen here since it's an e-mail sent not a PM and no logs are, apparently, kept, into every complaint brought up.

I am most definitely NOT screaming reveal.

In point of fact I have used all the proper channels I know of and have since dropped it, seeing as how the mods have admitted they are powerless to stop it, and unwilling to stop it even if they had the power, since its news.

I encountered something that I thought was a serious problem for the boards and brought it to the attention of the mods.

They appear to disagree that it is serious.