CONTROVERSIAL QUESTION: Difficult Subject Matter.

[Sorrowdusk]

(Dbl posted see below)

 

[Sorrowdusk]

proof: does CLW heal a bruise?-yes
is there a difference between a bruise and internal bleeding-no
CLW works on internal bleeding- simple.

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AH! But should the internal bleeding HP dmg, or CON dmg?
Bleeding attacks, wounds, and blood draining abilities are often rendered as ability dmg. Essentially, Cure Wounds spells can close wounds, but dont replace what was lost. Also HP doesnt REALLY represent gallons of blood your character can have spilled when say, being attacked by a dragon so much as their ability to reduce and avoid damage. Its only when you dip below 0hp that you actually begin bleeding out in any sense, with CON dmg being particularly serious internal dmg.

Negative. The mother slew the father during the escape.

Well there goes the "I Am Your Father "/"Noooooo! " moment.

Personally I think it would really depend, but if I recall-dont dwarves have Lawful tendencies? I would take that into consideration, and so I would think as long as they would carry it to term out of some sense of duty.

 

[airwalkrr]

So first of all, D&D has a sort of unspoken rule that crossbreeding only works in one of two ways. 1) A creature crossbreeds with a human (although even this seems limited generally to elves and orcs). 2) A powerful magical creature crossbreeds with anything. Orcs and dwarves are not humans and thus lack that certain crossbreeding potential. I wouldn't put either of them up on a pedestal equivalent to that of angels, demons, or dragons either. But let's assume the DM eschews precedent in this situation and allows the "orf" pregnancy to occur.

I think it would depend entirely on the clan and the alignment of the dwarf bearing the child. If the clan had an ongoing and active war with orcs that stretched back for untold centuries, there would likely be great pressure upon the pregnant dwarf to "take care" of the problem, as such a child would be seen as much a potential enemy spy as a potential ally. The alignment of the dwarf carrying the child might also come into play. A lawful dwarf would likely abide by the decision of the clan chiefs regarding the matter while a chaotic dwarf would simply make her own decision. A neutral dwarf would weigh the matter on both sides. If the dwarf were evil, she certainly wouldn't care for the child unless she saw it as a means to gain power, perhaps over the orcs, or perhaps even over other dwarves. If the dwarf were good, she might do the merciful thing and spare the child a terrible life or might do the other merciful thing and give the child a chance to live and prove itself.

So I guess my answer is: it depends.

 

[AeroDm]

I would say that because there are no resources and no precedent, there is no *right* answer. I would go with whatever leads to the best story. At the point you decide to introduce this type of scenario into your game you are taking on a lot of risk with the potential payout of emotionally powerful and memorable scenes. Do whatever best enhances and justifies those scenes.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

AH! But should the internal bleeding HP dmg, or CON dmg?
Bleeding attacks, wounds, and blood draining abilities are often rendered as ability dmg. Essentially, Cure Wounds spells can close wounds, but dont replace what was lost. Also HP doesnt REALLY represent gallons of blood your character can have spilled when say, being attacked by a dragon so much as their ability to reduce and avoid damage. Its only when you dip below 0hp that you actually begin bleeding out in any sense, with CON dmg being particularly serious internal dmg.

Even the weakest healing magic will stop bleeding. Once you have the patient stabilized they'll heal.

 

[Zenchi]

@airwalkrr , no your wrong, everything does not revolve around humans.

Question, how does she know she's pregnant with the half-breed? Was she celebrate? Is she considered so ugly that no male Dawrf will touch her

As was already said, with dwarves it would probably be culturally acceptable either way.

If the abortion does not take place there will probably be health issues with the birth, as the child will be substantially larger then even the largest of Dwarves.

If the Abortion does take place there will also be health problems. Dwarves are not known for their medical prowess and if the process is not magically assisted.

Either way I don't know how you guys DM stuff, but cure minor wounds has always been "minor wounds" in my book, IE is you lose an arm and 25 hit points along with it, that minor wound spell is not going to do much good. just the same an abnormal birth or archaic abortion both have a high chance of health complications unless magically assisted, assistance that will be expensive because it will likely be specialized.

I would suggest any fellow party members raiding the responsible Orcs and using the booty to help pay the hefty medical/magic bills.

 

[Pergentile]

Sez who? While I personally don't care to include sexuality in my role-playing, I'm not aware of anything that makes such a game "not D&D." In fact, over the years, I've had several experiences with sex in D&D.

If you don't like the subject matter of a thread, don't read it and/or don't post in it. Telling people it should be posted in a different forum because it doesn't meet your personal, arbitrary standard of "what is D&D" is just threadcrapping.

Sorry, I was not saying that the game suddenly stops being D&D, I was saying that the sexual role-playing part is not a part of the D&D. I was using "D&D" as it is actually defined, as a specific tabletop RPG with set aspects, rules, etc. not as a general term for "all role-playing" as some people's personal definition of it is. D&D has no sex, and no way to include it other than in personal role-playing. Although I understand where you are coming from, there is indeed some things that are role-played alongside D&D that are not a part of D&D, and can cause confusion, especially when people view the use of "D&D" as something other than its defined meaning.
However, I do see how my post was indeed belligerent, regardless of how that was pointed out. Thanks for making me aware of my own ignorance.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Was she celebrate?

I don't think she had much reason to be happy.

(I believe the word you're looking for is "celibate.")

 

[Loren Pechtel]

If the Abortion does take place there will also be health problems. Dwarves are not known for their medical prowess and if the process is not magically assisted.

Either way I don't know how you guys DM stuff, but cure minor wounds has always been "minor wounds" in my book, IE is you lose an arm and 25 hit points along with it, that minor wound spell is not going to do much good. just the same an abnormal birth or archaic abortion both have a high chance of health complications unless magically assisted, assistance that will be expensive because it will likely be specialized.

I would suggest any fellow party members raiding the responsible Orcs and using the booty to help pay the hefty medical/magic bills.

Even cure minor wounds stops bleeding. It won't replace the arm and you'll still be 24 points down but you'll be stable and won't die.

 

[airwalkrr]

@airwalkrr , no your wrong, everything does not revolve around humans.

That was only half my point. Only humans and powerful magic monsters historically have been able to crossbreed with other creatures. I challenge you to find more than a handful of exceptions. If you know of countless examples, please point them out. I'm willing to be proven wrong, but in every version of the "legacy" D&D monster manuals there are no half-breeds except those with humans and those with powerful magical creatures such as dragons, demons, and angels. Even silly monsters like the owlbear are generally described as the result of magical experimentation so those are clearly not natural crossbreeding.

Whether you like it or not D&D is rather humanocentric.