Conversation as a D&D Sidequest

Last weekend, I spent some time hanging out with a friend from my D&D group. We had other things on the agenda, but we also realized that it was a perfect opportunity to have an in-character conversation we had been trying to have in-game for nearly two months. Our sessions have been eventful, and there wasn’t a good time to pause for it. We thought it might be a longish discussion, and wouldn't include the other characters, so we kept putting it off.

Last weekend, I spent some time hanging out with a friend from my D&D group. We had other things on the agenda, but we also realized that it was a perfect opportunity to have an in-character conversation we had been trying to have in-game for nearly two months. Our sessions have been eventful, and there wasn’t a good time to pause for it. We thought it might be a longish discussion, and wouldn't include the other characters, so we kept putting it off.


I have done some geeky things in my day -- opening a comic and game shop, visiting filming locations for favorite movies and TV shows, writing a column about D&D -- but I think I just leveled up. We started sharing some big backstory secrets while sitting at the kitchen table, then continued as we walked down the wine aisle at the grocery store. We weren’t in costume, but maybe it still counts as my first LARP experience. Regardless, that’s some next-level geekery, and it was delightful. Don’t worry, moms from 1982, I still know the difference between the game and reality.

This wasn’t the first time I shared some information with only one or two other characters in a larger party or had someone else do the same. I know my experience is not necessarily universal, but I imagine it’s common to share a few backstory details with one or two people as necessary. Still, I never had a first-person, in-character experience of that kind before. This was an hour or more of free-flowing conversation, although admittedly, we slipped into third person on occasion.

Our DM knew about most of what we discussed and was fine with this approach. (Though now that I think of it, a thing or two came up that I probably should tell him about. If you do this, don’t forget to circle back with new info!) It works well for this particular style of play. It doesn’t feel like we’re leaving other characters out of the good stuff, because it’s all going to come out eventually. In an RP-heavy game like this, it makes sense to allow some secrets and surprises build. It fits well because almost everyone started with a mysterious backstory -- except our barbarian, who is very well-adjusted, has a great relationship with his family, and doesn’t rage so much as he beats monsters to death with the force of his cheery enthusiasm. If it turns out he has dark secrets, that would be the greatest surprise of all.

While having this conversation in person was fun, it’s also possible to do it in text form. I’ve used both email and instant messaging to accomplish the same basic thing, though we didn’t technically do it in first person. Among the benefits: putting things in writing makes it easier to bring your DM into the loop on everything that was discussed. We discuss character information privately with our DM over email, so it works as an extension of that.

I realize this might be a controversial approach. I would use it sparingly, and I wouldn’t recommend it for everybody’s game. But I’m wondering how this has worked for other people’s games. Have your campaigns included private, in-character side conversations? Or does everything stay strictly at the table?

contributed by Annie Bulloch
 

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Jamie Myers

First Post
I think this isn't a bad approach but you are right that the GM needs to made aware if this could effect how they approach something. Not to mention it means you are engaged in the game.
 

Jhaelen

First Post
I try to avoid it if possible. IME, it's usually a sign that there are some deeper issues that haven't come fully out of hiding, yet. Something's afoot and I'd rather bring it on the table ASAP. I tend to make attempts to discuss something about the game with me in private public. We're all grown-ups after all, and I don't think there's anything that cannot be discussed with everyone involved.
If a PC receives in-game information that other PCs aren't privy to, I expect the players to be able to have their PCs act as if they didn't know.
 

Venley

First Post
I'm not sure that you are talking about the same thing Jhaelen. In-character discussions, eg. whether to support the building project of Lathander or Chauntea, speculations on how to market some of the local products of the PCs' manor... interesting to 2 of the PCs but not to the knight who just expects the food to be on his table not to know how it gets there, how the history of a far-away place that one character has visited may bear on the local situation, how one character feels about the loss of his wife and babies just before the campaign started...that caused him to return home, whether the mysterious complicated metal bits that one PC spied when a box broke as it fell off a dwarven cart could be replicated by his NPC inventor miller friend as clockwork improvements to a toy they were working on together, that sort of thing.

Positive, creative discussions, nothing negative. Sometimes stuff that only interests part of the party, sometimes the player working something out with the GM that they will bring out in the next session.

This level of engagement is what I GM for & without it I lose interest.
https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.ph...orld-as-real-it-magnifies-my-creative-payoffs
 
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Elf_flambe

Explorer
In the late '70s to early '80s, my gaming group ran parallel sessions of D&D and a more free-form improvisational RPG. They all happened in the same campaign world, and many of the characters and storylines overlapped constantly. There were certainly folks in the group who were more comfortable with one or the other game style, but many of us enjoyed both. So there were frequent gatherings of whoever was available at someone's house or dorm room, sometimes for D&D, but more often for an improv session.

Whole adventures might happen, but it could as easily just be in-character discussions, flirting, planning, plotting, and/or politiking. And sometimes, you just got trapped in the study of a certain high-level wizard who loved verbal sparring over cognac. (Actually tea and coffee at the local Village Inn restaurant...)

One friend worked for a while at a small tobacconist shop. We'd talk in-character between infrequent customers. Though I don't smoke, to this day, there are certain characters I pleasantly associate with the rich aroma of pipe tobacco... :)
 

Lord Kakabel

Explorer
I did this at Ren Faire once. My friend and I were sitting at the bar, he dressed as a dark samurai, I a necromancer, and we were weighing the pros and cons of living vs undead minions and the mindlessness of both. It was a great deal of fun, and people at other tables were laughing with us.
 

Helen R. Robare

First Post
I'm old school (one of those moms in the 80's who played D&D) and still play 2nd edition. I did a LOT of role playing. My friend and I would roleplay all the time. (Honestly, I think we lived in a fantasy world for years). Our kids turned out just fine and now we're old ladies who still like to role play our characters (when we can remember their names. lol). It got us through a LOT of hard times, let me tell you. Didn't matter where we were, as long as we kept our voices down, the charcters came out to play. We had marriage, break ups, hard times, good times, court balls, etc (in fact I still have all the stories I've written about characters in the world of Carrolon) and have been told I should try and publish them but at my age now, it doesn't seem worth the effort. When dementia sets in, I think I'll move to Carrolon permanently. :)
 

Mad_Jack

Legend
Don't generally spend much outside-the-game time with the people I game with, but this has happened a fair number of times.

Best one was back in the '90's when my then-current group happened to run into each other at the mall semi-randomly, although it had been a brief topic of discussion before the last session started - Three players showed up in one group, two in another, and the DM and I had both shown up solo.

We all met up at the toy store, since one of the players worked there (half the group worked at the mall, and the rest of us had worked there at some point in the past few years), and were goofing around. The DM and I were about to have a sword fight with plastic weapons when I spontaneously began an in-character monologue, calling the DM by the name of a bad guy the door of whose lair we'd just kicked off the hinges in the last session.
The DM began a rebuttal monologue in character.

It's a good thing the mall security people knew some of us, lol.

The party ended up having it out with the villain right there in the store, grabbing up plastic and foam weapons and tossing beanbags for spells. No dice, just acting and real play-swordfighting. We entertained the hell out of about a dozen people, most of them kids and tweens.

These days we'd totally get tasered by mall security for that kind of stuff.
 

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