Converting Al-Qadim and Oriental Adventures creatures

[Cleon]

Ahh...indeed.

I think we got into trouble trying to advance this thing from the base creature, rather than just recreating it whole cloth with x skills and x feats.

Let's steal back 6 ranks from Concentration to max out Spellcraft, improving its chances of casting its epic spells. It still has little to worry about casting in battle with such high Concentration.

Updated.

I agree with that. We also need to drop Diplomacy to +42 and Sense Motive to +44 since it doesn't have the +2 for Negotiator anymore.

So, shall we swap out storm of vengeance for... astral projection? Another mass heal?

I prefer gate to astral projection, since it doesn't leave its body lying around vulnerable, although I also quite like summon monster IX.

 

[freyar]

Well, I'll let you guys fill in the spell and feat choices, as I think I'm too far behind on this conversation for the moment.

 

[Shade]

I agree with that. We also need to drop Diplomacy to +42 and Sense Motive to +44 since it doesn't have the +2 for Negotiator anymore.

Actually, I believe Diplomacy is correct, since synergy bonuses increase to +4 after 25 ranks. Sense Motive will drop 2, though.

I prefer gate to astral projection, since it doesn't leave its body lying around vulnerable, although I also quite like summon monster IX.

Let's go with summon monster IX.

 

[Cleon]

Actually, I believe Diplomacy is correct, since synergy bonuses increase to +4 after 25 ranks. Sense Motive will drop 2, though.

Oh blast, I don't think I included the synergy bonus. I keep on forgetting it.

That would make its Diplomacy +44 (36 ranks +4 Cha +4 Sense Motive synergy)

 

[Shade]

Updated.

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

Looks like we're getting there!

Apart from agreeing on the 10th-12th level spells, the only thing that leaps out at me is the attack bonuses need updating. The bite attack should be +53 melee (+45 from HD, +16 Str, -8 size) and the stamps +48 melee (Add -5 for secondary).

 

[Shade]

Good catch. I'm not sure why I missed that, when I remember to fix the BAB/Grapple.

Updated.

So about those 10th-12th level spells, here's what we discussed...

10th—maximized sunburst or quickened empowered sunburst or extended summon monster IX?
11th—intensified flame strike?
12th—intensified blade barrier?

Am I missing any? Did anyone have a different suggestion?

 

[freyar]

One of the sunbursts seems thematically appropriate for the 10th level slot.

We still seem to need more 4th and 5th level spells, though I might have missed some suggestions upthread.

 

[Shade]

You're right!

4th—divine power, freedom of movement, repel vermin (handy for keeping those pesky scorpions away )?
5th—atonement, righteous might, true seeing?

 

[Cleon]

So about those 10th-12th level spells, here's what we discussed...

10th—maximized sunburst or quickened empowered sunburst or extended summon monster IX?
11th—intensified flame strike?
12th—intensified blade barrier?

Am I missing any? Did anyone have a different suggestion?

I like maximized sunburst and the two intensified spells.

You're right!

4th—divine power, freedom of movement, repel vermin (handy for keeping those pesky scorpions away )?
5th—atonement, righteous might, true seeing?

Both freedom of movement and true seeing for general usefulness. Divine power is handy, but righteous might is a less useful as it's already Colossal, so loses out on the Str/Con/damage increases.

I'm thinking mark of justice makes a lot of sense as one of the 5th level spells, giving these Camel's modus operandi of punishing the guilty and law breakers.