Converting Al-Qadim creatures

Somebody remind me about where we put a symbol of pain effect in a poison, and I'll write that up.

As for the disease,

Disease (Ex): red ache -- swarm, Fortitude DC X, incubation period 1d3 days, damage 1d6 Str. The save DC is Constitution-based.
 

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Somebody remind me about where we put a symbol of pain effect in a poison, and I'll write that up.

You mean like the Scorpionfish?

Poison (Ex): Injury (spines), Fortitude DC 11; initial damage agonizing pain equal to a symbol of pain (-4 penalty on attack rolls, skill checks, and ability checks) for 2d6 minutes; secondary damage agonizing pain for 1d4 hours plus 1d4 Con damage. The save DC is Constitution-based.

Or maybe the Giant Euryothe "Fire Worm"...

Agonizing Venom: DC 15 Fortitude negates, initial damage wracking pains (imposing a -4 penalty on attack rolls, skill checks and ability checks for a duration of 1d6×10 minutes), secondary damage 1d6 Dexterity. The save DC is Constitution-based and includes a +4 racial bonus.
 





Changing in which way?

The thing is, I think that pain effect is probably too strong to last for days. But I'm not too invested in it. I was really just looking at poison plus disease to get out of our confusion back there. ;)
 

Changing in which way?

I suppose make it a disease that causes pain until it is cured. If it uses the standard "two successive Fort saves" method of natural healing it'll last at least 2 days without supernatural cures.

The thing is, I think that pain effect is probably too strong to last for days. But I'm not too invested in it. I was really just looking at poison plus disease to get out of our confusion back there. ;)

Well if it irks you we could reduce the penalty, I suppose. Maybe the full -4 for an initial effect that lasts a few minutes, then a -2 or -1 penalty for some lingering damage.
 

Well if it irks you we could reduce the penalty, I suppose. Maybe the full -4 for an initial effect that lasts a few minutes, then a -2 or -1 penalty for some lingering damage.

I like this approach. -1 is probably sufficiently debilitating.
 


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