Converting Epic Level Creatures

[Clifford]

Looks Grool to me too. (Great + cool = Grool)

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Natural armor bonus? The similarly CRed sea linnorm has +36, which is actually superior to that of the higher-CRed dread (+30) and corpse tearer (+28) linnorms.

Suggested damage reduction?

Sea linnorm has 30/magic, dread 15/magic, and corpse tearer 20/magic. The swamp linnorm has 10/cold iron. I'd actually prefer the cold iron, or maybe 10/epic.

 

[demiurge1138]

DR 10/epic would do well to differentiate it.

The MM2 linnorms are really paragon examples of terrible high-level game design. There's a reason I completely scrapped and redid their stats when I was converting stuff out of the MM2.

 

[Shade]

Indeed! They don't even follow the dragon rules properly.

 

[GrayLinnorm]

If the linnorms in MM2 aren't great, maybe we should at the linnorms in the Creature Catalog instead?

(And I liked the linnorms better when they were true dragons.)

 

[freyar]

Looking at the CC linnorms might be a good idea.

Since we wanted to go melee-masher with Fafnir, the higher end of natural armor would make sense.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Skills: 8 at 29 ranks
Standard linnorm skills:
Bluff, Concentration, Diplomacy, Intimidate, Knowledge (arcana), Listen, Search, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Spot, Swim

Feats: Multiattack, 8 more (2 can be epic)
Standard linnorm feats:
Alertness, Flyby Attack, Multiattack, Snatch
Other feats: Ability Focus, Cleave, Power Attack, metamagic feats

 

[GrayLinnorm]

For feats, how about Devasting Critical and the chain of feats required for it?

 

[Shade]

Sure!

That'll give us Cleave, Devasting Critical (bite), Great Cleave, Improved Critical (bite), Overwhelming Critical (bite), Power Attack, Weapon Focus (bite). That leaves one more feat (which cannot be epic). How about Snatch?

 

[Clifford]

Snatch sounds good to me. I was under the impresion that non many norse dragons could fly/