Converting Epic Level Creatures

[freyar]

I like the vortex maw well enough, though we may have to work on convincing Cleon.

 

[Cleon]

I like the vortex maw well enough, though we may have to work on convincing Cleon.

Go on then, I enjoy a challenge.

 

[Cleon]

So you don't like gulp or charging bite? This thing should be very efficient at swallowing, not be tied up with a single opponent.

I don't like Gulp since as written there's seems to be no means for the target to avoid it.

Charging Bite's approach is OK, since it has a saving throw.

I wouldn't object to some kind of area-effect Engulf for a "multi-target" swallow.

 

[freyar]

Something like engulf could work. Care to write that up?

 

[Cleon]

Something like engulf could work. Care to write that up?

How's this:

Engulfing Maw (Ex): As a standard action, a draedan can stretch its vast maw to cover an area X feet in diameter anywhere within its Reach. All creatures within the affected area must make a DC X Reflex save to avoid being scooped into the creature's expanded, open mouth and swallowed. See Swallow Whole, below, for the consequences of being swallowed by a draeden. The save DC is Dexterity-based.

 

[freyar]

That would work. I might also consider making it a move or even swift action.

 

[Cleon]

That would work. I might also consider making it a move or even swift action.

Don't much like a swift action. Wouldn't mind "A draeden can attempt to engulf opponents with any of its mouths instead of making a normal bite attack with that mouth (as part of a standard attack or full attack)."

 

[freyar]

Well, if Shade likes, I'm ok with reopening the elemasters.

Back to the draeden: making the maw an alternate attack is fine with me. Or a move action, either way.

 

[Cleon]

Well, if Shade likes, I'm ok with reopening the elemasters.

Back to the draeden: making the maw an alternate attack is fine with me. Or a move action, either way.

I prefer the alternative attack.

 

[Shade]

I've moved the Elemaster posts to a new thread, and excised the posts from here.

For the draeden, making the maw an alternate attack works for me as well.