Converting "generic setting" second edition monsters

[Shade]

Yep, one too many Wester Bacon Thickburgers.

A shark has blindsense, so why not. However, if it is eyeless, go with blindsight (blindsense is too weak for sole method of vision). Also, why not borrow from the shark:

Keen Scent (Ex): A shark can notice creatures by scent in a 180-foot radius and detect blood in the water at ranges of up to a mile.

Progeny Suggested Skill Ranks: Escape Artist 5, Move Silently 1
Progeny Suggested Feats: Stealthy, Weapon Finesse

Apodalypse Suggested Skill Ranks: Listen 8, Spot 8 (it doesn't really need anything else, does it?)
Apodalypse Suggested Feats: Great Fortitude, Improved Initiative, Iron Will, Power Attack (all but Multiattack and Power Attack borrowed from shark)

Also, should these critters have the amphibious quality (particularly the progeny)?

 

[BOZ]

Yep, one too many Wester Bacon Thickburgers.

never had one, but it does sound like it could make you 4 size categories larger.

A shark has blindsense, so why not. However, if it is eyeless, go with blindsight (blindsense is too weak for sole method of vision). Also, why not borrow from the shark:

Keen Scent (Ex): A shark can notice creatures by scent in a 180-foot radius and detect blood in the water at ranges of up to a mile.

ok, blindsight 60 ft for the progeny, and keen scent for both.

Progeny Suggested Skill Ranks: Escape Artist 5, Move Silently 1
Progeny Suggested Feats: Stealthy, Weapon Finesse

Apodalypse Suggested Skill Ranks: Listen 8, Spot 8 (it doesn't really need anything else, does it?)
Apodalypse Suggested Feats: Great Fortitude, Improved Initiative, Iron Will, Power Attack (all but Multiattack and Power Attack borrowed from shark)

that all sounds good, and I assume you meant to add Multiattack in there.

Also, should these critters have the amphibious quality (particularly the progeny)?

why yes, yes they do. Undead don’t need to breathe, but maybe these guys do.

 

[Shade]

Ooops! I did forget to add Multiattack in there.

 

[BOZ]

OK, nearly done with this one… a few remaining issues…

Damage reduction:
5/magic for progeny, 10/magic for apodalypse? Or something tougher?

SR 18 enough for adult?

Energy Drain (Su): Living creatures inside an apodalypse’s interior gain X negative level(s) each round. The DC is 18 for the Fortitude save to remove a negative level. The save DC is (Charisma)-based. For each such negative level bestowed, the apodalypse gains X temporary hit points.

CR… 3 or 4 for progeny, and 13-15 for adult?

 

[Knight Otu]

I could see silver as a DR component...

SR should be ok.

1 or 2 negative levels?

 

[Shade]

How about 5/good for progeny, and 10/magic and good for apodalypse? With their vulnerability to turning and holy water, good seems like a no-brainer.

SR sounds kinda low. Assuming CR 13 (which may be off), that is only CR + 5. Rather weak. I'd recommend we determine its CR first, then add at least 8 to it.

2 neg levels/5 hit points gained?

Proggy is about equivalent of an imp or quasit, which are both CR 2.

The apodalypse is about on par with the glabrezu, so CR 13 (ol' dogheaded pincer-boy has become my benchmark today...weird).

 

[BOZ]

How about 5/good for progeny, and 10/magic and good for apodalypse? With their vulnerability to turning and holy water, good seems like a no-brainer.

yeah… yes, it does. and the progeny doesn’t have much of a brain…

updating... another one bites the dust?

 

[Knight Otu]

updating... another one bites the dust?

How could it bite the dust when it is aquatic?

Looks good.

 

[Shade]

Another one gills the sand? Another one filter-feeds the plankton?

Out of the doorway the bullets rip (at a –2 penalty on attack rolls for every 5 feet of water they pass through, in addition to the normal penalties for range).

That song really suffers in an aquatic environment.

It looks good.

 

[BOZ]

whoops, forgot to add amphibious quality... good thing you guys reminded me of that LOL