Converting Monsters from Polyhedron Magazine

[freyar]

Ability to cast divine spells of 2nd/3rd level (bracketing CL 4 for a cleric) and evil alignment?

 

[Shade]

I'd be happy with that, and think 3rd-level is better.

 

[freyar]

Cleon, do you agree?

 

[Cleon]

Cleon, do you agree?

Oh I guess so.

I'm not that enthusiastic about 3rd level spells, but if we drop the bonus HD we should give the base creature more levels to compensate, so it's acceptable.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Anything left other than CR and LA? Should we work on a sample creature first to determine those values?

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

Anything left other than CR and LA? Should we work on a sample creature first to determine those values?

I'm fine doing a sample creature.

How about a 9th level non-elite bugbear adept, just to be different?

That's the minimum level for an adept with 13-15 Wisdom to qualify for the 3rd level spell prerequisite, although an 8th level adept can do it with 16+ Wisdom.

If you don't like that idea we could do a 5th level NE elite bugbear druid.

 

[Shade]

Make the adept elite, and I'm in.

 

[Shade]

Added sample to Homebrews.

I realized we were missing ghoul fever, so I added it to both the template and the sample.

I added its two ability score boosts (for 4th and 8th level) to Wis and Cha.

For skills...
A bugbear's humanoid levels give it 12 skill points. Its class skills are Climb, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, and Spot.

The adept levels give it 24 ranks to spend. Its class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Handle Animal (Cha), Heal (Wis), Knowledge (all skills taken individually) (Int), Profession (Wis), Spellcraft (Int), and Survival (Wis).

 

[Cleon]

Make the adept elite, and I'm in.

It's a deal.

Added sample to Homebrews.

I realized we were missing ghoul fever, so I added it to both the template and the sample.

I added its two ability score boosts (for 4th and 8th level) to Wis and Cha.

Shouldn't we say how its elite stat array was assigned? I make it Str 14, Dex 12, Con 8, Int 10, Wis 15, Cha 13.

For skills...
A bugbear's humanoid levels give it 12 skill points. Its class skills are Climb, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, and Spot.

4 ranks apiece in Hide, Listen and Spot?

The racial bonus to Move Silently will even out the scores nicely.

The adept levels give it 24 ranks to spend. Its class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Handle Animal (Cha), Heal (Wis), Knowledge (all skills taken individually) (Int), Profession (Wis), Spellcraft (Int), and Survival (Wis).

Shouldn't that be 27 ranks since it's a 9th level Intelligence 12 Adept?

Nine ranks apiece in Concentration, Knowledge (religion) and Spellcraft?

 

[Shade]

Shouldn't we say how its elite stat array was assigned? I make it Str 14, Dex 12, Con 8, Int 10, Wis 15, Cha 13.

Will add.

4 ranks apiece in Hide, Listen and Spot?

The racial bonus to Move Silently will even out the scores nicely.

Sounds good!

Shouldn't that be 27 ranks since it's a 9th level Intelligence 12 Adept?

Nope. It didn't get the Int boost until acquiring the template, so it gets only 2 skill ranks for each of its 9 levels, plus quadruple skills for first level.

Nine ranks apiece in Concentration, Knowledge (religion) and Spellcraft?

Make that 8 ranks apiece (see above).