Converting Monsters from Polyhedron Magazine

[freyar]

+2 turn resistance sounds good.

The original monster just seemed to expose critters to the drowning embrace with a touch attack, but I'd be ok with adding 1d4 damage (negative energy?), I guess.

I was going to possibly suggest WF (incorporeal touch) or Weapon Finesse, but I'm now confused where the +6 comes from on incorporeal touch (and why +3 vs ethereal). Also, why give it a Str score? For the ethereal plane, where it's not incorporeal? In any case, I get at most +5 = +3 BAB +2 Dex.

 

[Cleon]

Whoa, whoa...me too! I didn't express my point well.

I meant to simply change the +4 circumstance bonus to "grants cover".

That's fine then, but I'd still rather it mentions the bonuses from Cover, just as a reminder. Also, I think it'd be better using "vile wake" instead of "her waves" in the second paragraph.

e.g.:

Vile Wake (Su): As a free action, a drowned maiden can create powerful waves or currents in a body of water she is in contact with. These waves can be formed over any area within a 10-ft. radius of the drowned maiden, turning the area into difficult terrain. A drowned maiden gains cover while using vile wake (+2 to Reflex saves and +4 to AC).

As a standard action, a drowned maiden can use vile wake to try to push back or knock over opponents. Resolve this as a bull rush or overrun attack that does not provoke an attack of opportunity, except the drowned maiden uses her Charisma modifier on this check instead of her Strength modifier.

 

[Cleon]

Looks good. Updated.

+2 turn resistance?

Did we ever decide upon damage for incorporeal touch?

Feats: 3
Negotiator, Persuasive...what else?

+2 turn resistance sounds good.

The original monster just seemed to expose critters to the drowning embrace with a touch attack, but I'd be ok with adding 1d4 damage (negative energy?), I guess.

I was going to possibly suggest WF (incorporeal touch) or Weapon Finesse, but I'm now confused where the +6 comes from on incorporeal touch (and why +3 vs ethereal). Also, why give it a Str score? For the ethereal plane, where it's not incorporeal? In any case, I get at most +5 = +3 BAB +2 Dex.

The updated skills are fine, as is +2 turn resistance.

I suspect the +6 touch is a relic from copy-and-pasting the Spectre and not changing it.

I'd give her Weapon Finesse for a +5 touch attack.

1d4 damage seems too low for a 7 HD monster, I'd go for 1d6 damage, which is still lower than a Spectre.

 

[freyar]

Shouldn't need Weapon Finesse; incorporeal critters use Dex for attacks by default. Of course, normal incorporeal critters have Str -, too. Frankly, since drowned maidens don't have any use for Str (they use Cha for drowning embrace), I'd prefer to make Str a nonability.

1d6 is ok, but I went for 1d4 as closer to the original 0.

 

[Cleon]

Shouldn't need Weapon Finesse; incorporeal critters use Dex for attacks by default. Of course, normal incorporeal critters have Str -, too. Frankly, since drowned maidens don't have any use for Str (they use Cha for drowning embrace), I'd prefer to make Str a nonability.

Good point.

How about considering some SRD incorporeal undead for the missing feat:

Shadow: Alertness, Dodge
Spectre: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Improved Initiative
Wraith: Alertness (B), Blind-Fight, Combat Reflexes, Improved Initiative (B)

Of those Blind-Fight or Improved Initiate seem the most tempting. Failing that, I'd consider Lightning Reflexes or Flyby Attack.

Oh, and I think we should give the Drowning Embrace grapple modifier of a typical drowned maiden. i.e. +7 (3 from HD, 4 from Cha).

 

[Shade]

Shouldn't need Weapon Finesse; incorporeal critters use Dex for attacks by default. Of course, normal incorporeal critters have Str -, too. Frankly, since drowned maidens don't have any use for Str (they use Cha for drowning embrace), I'd prefer to make Str a nonability.

Doesn't the manifestation ability necessitate a Str score, though? Ghosts and other "dual-existence ethereal creatures" have one.

Blind-Fight and Improved Initiative appeal. Go with those two and Persuasive?

I'm fine with either 1d4 or 1d6 on the touch attack.

 

[freyar]

I like Negotiator, Persuasive, and Imp Init.

I think I like 1d4 on the touch.

I guess the Str score is for fighting ethereal critters, since they're not incorporeal on the ethereal plane. Ermph. Let me think about ghosts a bit.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Challenge Rating: 6? Although they are comparable in size and HD, they are less deadly than a spectre (CR 7).

Treasure: W (x rusalka's age in years)

Rusalki do not contribute to the environment in any way. Various coins and items of jewelry can often be found submerged in the shallows or covered with a layer of sediment near places where rusalki are known to appear. These items are all that is left of the rusalka's victims, and as such, increase with the passing of the years.

Treasure: Standard coins, standard gems, no items?

Advancement: 8–14 HD (Medium) like a spectre?

 

[GrayLinnorm]

Updated.

Challenge Rating: 6? Although they are comparable in size and HD, they are less deadly than a spectre (CR 7).





Treasure: Standard coins, standard gems, no items?

Advancement: 8–14 HD (Medium) like a spectre?

Treasure type W had magic items in 2e, so I'd just go with standard.

 

[Shade]

Treasure type W had magic items in 2e, so I'd just go with standard.

Good point! Agreed.