Converting Monsters from Polyhedron Magazine

[Cleon]

Yes. Applying that along with the homonculus' stats...

Cocoadaemon
Tiny Construct (Evil, Extraplanar, Yugoloth)
Hit Dice: 3d10 (16 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares)
Armor Class: 14 (+2 Dex, +2 size), touch 14, flat-footed 12
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/–8
Attack: Bite +2 melee (1d4–1)
Full Attack: Bite +2 melee (1d4–1)
Space/Reach: 2½ ft./0 ft.
Special Attacks: —
Special Qualities: Construct traits, damage reduction 5/good, darkvision 60 ft., immunity to acid and poison, resistance to cold 10, electricity 10, and fire 10, telepathy 100 ft.
Saves: Fort +0, Ref +2, Will +1
Abilities: Str 8, Dex 15, Con —, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 7
Skills: 12
Feats: 2
Environment: Bleak Eternity of Gehenna
Organization: Solitary
Challenge Rating: x
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral evil
Advancement: 4–6 HD (Tiny)
Level Adjustment: +3 (cohort)

Well I can see a few changes we might want to consider.

Attack: Bite +2 melee (1d4–1)

Chocolate isn't exactly hard, so what is it biting with? I'm thinking a slam attack might be more appropriate. Maybe even two slams with a full attack, like the SRD Golems.

Special Qualities: Construct traits, damage reduction 5/good, darkvision 60 ft., immunity to acid and poison, resistance to cold 10, electricity 10, and fire 10, telepathy 100 ft.

Constructs have immunity to poison as standard.

Resistance to fire and immunity to acid don't sound very appropriate for a creature made out of chocolate.

I'd cut them both.

Not sure about the telepathy, but I guess it doesn't hurt.

Environment: Bleak Eternity of Gehenna
Alignment: Always neutral evil

Finally, I'm thinking you're being a bit literal wanting to make these things Neutral Evil Yugoloths.

Emezons Chefs aren't neutral evil, so why should only they make malign Cacaodaemons?

 

[freyar]

Well, if they're daemons, they should be yugolothy. Maybe the non-evil emezons can make calzone golems instead?

 

[Shade]

Chocolate isn't exactly hard, so what is it biting with? I'm thinking a slam attack might be more appropriate. Maybe even two slams with a full attack, like the SRD Golems.

I initially thought to change it to slams, but thought chocolate biting back better stuck with the semi-humorous theme.

That said, I don't mind slams at all.

Constructs have immunity to poison as standard.

Good point. Yugoloth leftovers.

Resistance to fire and immunity to acid don't sound very appropriate for a creature made out of chocolate.

I'd cut them both.

I suppose that's fine, since retrievers lack the usual demon resistances.

Finally, I'm thinking you're being a bit literal wanting to make these things Neutral Evil Yugoloths.

Emezons Chefs aren't neutral evil, so why should only they make malign Cacaodaemons?

I'm OK with unlacing them from yugoloths if we drop the "daemon" part of the name (although that kinda ruins the original pun). I just found it fun tying 'em to daemons. I suppose they could just be neutral, and still be yugoloth constructs. Maybe as a way for the nefarious fiends to get spellcasters in the habit of summoning their kind before fully immersing themselves in casting evil spells?

 

[Cleon]

I initially thought to change it to slams, but thought chocolate biting back better stuck with the semi-humorous theme.

That said, I don't mind slams at all.

Well, I have no objection to a bite attack if you prefer it, but slams would suit me better.

I'm OK with unlacing them from yugoloths if we drop the "daemon" part of the name (although that kinda ruins the original pun). I just found it fun tying 'em to daemons. I suppose they could just be neutral, and still be yugoloth constructs. Maybe as a way for the nefarious fiends to get spellcasters in the habit of summoning their kind before fully immersing themselves in casting evil spells?

Well, I suppose we could call them "cacaofiends" and not have them actually be fiends, since they are a bunch of other "fiends" that are not actually lower plane creatures.

Actually, if they have a similar alignment as their creator/summoner, than maybe we could add a note that the cacaofiends of evil chefs are called cacaodaemons (Neutral Evil) and good chefs get cacaoangels (Neutral Good).

However, I can't decide on a decent name for True Neutral cacaofiends - cacaorilmani or cacaogenie?

 

[freyar]

Those don't really roll off the tongue the same way "cacaodaemon" does, though. I kind of like Shade's idea that the yugoloths use them as a tool of corruption, since the original monster/spell sounds kind of evilish.

 

[Shade]

Those don't really roll off the tongue the same way "cacaodaemon" does, though. I kind of like Shade's idea that the yugoloths use them as a tool of corruption, since the original monster/spell sounds kind of evilish.

Let's just do that. That allows us to retain the clever pun for the name, while still allowing for casters of all alignments to summon them.

 

[Cleon]

Those don't really roll off the tongue the same way "cacaodaemon" does, though. I kind of like Shade's idea that the yugoloths use them as a tool of corruption, since the original monster/spell sounds kind of evilish.

I'm not seeing anything to indicate they're evil. Being a bit mischievous is a long way from being a minor incarnation of malevolence. They sound like they're no more a fiend than, say, a Sprite is. As I said earlier,

Hold on, Echohawk's post says they're called cocoademons, not daemons, which kind of undermines this yugoloth theory:

Cocoademon (Conjuration/Summoning)

Level: 4
Range: 1"
Duration: Permanent until dispelled
Area of spell: Special
Components: V,S,M
Casting Time: 3 hours
Saving Throw: None

Explanation/Description: With this spell, the chef creates a 10" tall demon-like creature made of chocolate, which can obey simple instructions from its creator (such as carrying light objects, stealing a small item, sounding an alarm in case of an unexpected visit, etc.). The cocoademon is of low intelligence and, though loyal to its creator, it likes practical jokes and causing mischief (but hates hot temperatures). It has 1 hp per level of the caster and an armor class of 10. The material component is 3 pounds of chocolate.

 

[Shade]

I'm not seeing anything to indicate they're evil. Being a bit mischievous is a long way from being a minor incarnation of malevolence. They sound like they're no more a fiend than, say, a Sprite is. As I said earlier,

Which is why I argued for a neutral alignment upthread.

Hold on, Echohawk's post says they're called cocoademons, not daemons, which kind of undermines this yugoloth theory:

Right, we discussed this upthread. We decided the name change better fit with the more recent "Cacodaemon" spell, which it appears to be punning.

I feel we're arguing in circles...

 

[Cleon]

Which is why I argued for a neutral alignment upthread.

Right, we discussed this upthread. We decided the name change better fit with the more recent "Cacodaemon" spell, which it appears to be punning.

I feel we're arguing in circles...

So, are we making them non-yugoloth Neutral Cocoademons then?

 

[freyar]

So, are we making them non-yugoloth Neutral Cocoademons then?

I thought Shade and I liked them to be yugolothy construct cacaodaemons -- presumably N -- used to corrupt non-evil casters. Didn't we?