Converting "Real World" Animals and Vermin

[Cleon]

Cleon, didn't you figure out an Advancement range for these guys earlier?

I proposed Advancement: 3-4 HD (Large); 5-8 (Huge); 9-16 (Gargantuan) [to include its bigger relative Eunice] back in post #764.

Weight, maybe 4-5 times as much as nereis?

Logically, it should be around 800 pounds, since its around twice as long & thick as a Nereis, but I'm tempted to put it at the minimum weight for standard size Large monsters, 500 pounds.

 

[freyar]

That advancement is good for me, and we can maybe mention somewhere that Eunice can be represented by an advanced Diopatra.

 

[Shade]

Updated (and added Eunice sidebar).

Anything left before moving on?

Edit: I just noticed this member of Eunicidae: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobbit_worm

This almost sounds like it should have Improved Init as a bonus feat and maybe augmented critical.

 

[freyar]

We could note in the Eunice sidebar that the next feats they take are Imp Init and Improved Crit. Would that work?

 

[demiurge1138]

Well, Improved Critical requires a better BAB. Giving it to them as a bonus, though, would work.

 

[freyar]

We could go bonus or else say it gets it at 12HD. Either way is fine with me.

 

[Cleon]

We could note in the Eunice sidebar that the next feats they take are Imp Init and Improved Crit. Would that work?

Eh? It's a mindless Vermin, so can't acquire feats normally. Could give it Bonus Feats, I suppose. As for Imp. Crit., you can just arbitrarily give it whatever threat range you fancy without needing a feat.

 

[Cleon]

Updated (and added Eunice sidebar).

Anything left before moving on?

It needs some kind of camouflage ability while in its tube and/or racial bonus to Hide so that creatures will walk up to it without noticing.

I'd think the easiest way to do it would be to decide what Hide bonus we want and reverse-engineer the racial bonus.

Assuming it's CR1, it'll probably be up against PCs with Spot skills of +5 or +6 tops, say we want it to have about a 75% chance of successfully hiding, that would need a Hide Skill of around +10.

So, racial Hide Bonus +12 in its tube, since it doesn't have any skill points and will have a -4 size penalty?

+1 from Dex + 12 from racial bonus -4 size => Hide +9?

 

[Shade]

You know, the more I think about this, I think the eunice should be a separate writeup. We can start it at higher HD, and focus on the Bobbit Worm (which has been fairly visible on the intarwebs lately).

I'm thinking we do the giant version justice as one of the nastiest worms on earth. Probably start it at Huge, 8 HD, augmented critical, and so on.

Thoughts?

 

[demiurge1138]

Agreed.