Converting "Real World" Animals and Vermin

Shade · Dec 7, 2009

Stick with 4 HD like the Large monstrous spider, but use the solifugid's ability scores (Str 17, Dex 15, Con 14, Int —, Wis 10, Cha 2 compared to the spider's Str 15, Dex 17, Con 12, Int —, Wis 10, Cha 2)?

freyar · Dec 7, 2009

Sounds like a good idea.

Shade · Dec 7, 2009

Added to Homebrews.

freyar · Dec 8, 2009

+4 natural, a toughish CR 2? Do they need anything else?

Shade · Dec 8, 2009

Updated.

We still need rend armor damage. The bebelith deals double bite damage and double damage from Strength. Stick with this pattern, doing 2d8+8?

I think the potential for stunning may drive these up to CR 3.

freyar · Dec 8, 2009

I think that's reasonable for rend armor, though there's a real possibility of ripping someone's nice armor apart in a couple of attacks. :devil:

The stunning really lasts a long time, too. What if we reduce the duration and/or reduce to dazed instead of stunned? It could still be CR 3, though maybe the save DC is slightly weak.

demiurge1138 · Dec 9, 2009

That stunning duration is ridiculous. Make it 1d2 rounds and I'd still argue for them to be CR 3.

freyar · Dec 9, 2009

I think 2d8 rounds is a typo; the original would have been 2d4, but I don't know that stunning was the same then or not. Let's either do 1d2 rounds dazed or 1 round stunned and figure out the CR from that.

Cleon · Dec 9, 2009

freyar said:
I think 2d8 rounds is a typo; the original would have been 2d4, but I don't know that stunning was the same then or not. Let's either do 1d2 rounds dazed or 1 round stunned and figure out the CR from that.

The Dragon Magazine article says "Stunning lasts for 2-8 rounds, followed by 2-8 rounds of deafness" for the Hiss, so it's a misinterpretation - it's 2d4, not 2d8.

For my conversion I make it shaken & deafened for 2d4 rounds, then deafened for another 2d4 rounds.