Converting "Real World" Animals and Vermin

My main problem with it is it makes them so much more effective than other dogs (and wolves). How about drop the Trip, since you're less enamored by it than Improved Grab?

Sure, once we drop one of those SAs. ;)

Well I could drop the Improved Grab... and give them Improved Grapple as a bonus feat. :p

Well I would rather they have Improved Grab than Trip, and it also helps distinguish them from a "war trained" Riding Dog.
 

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Well I could drop the Improved Grab... and give them Improved Grapple as a bonus feat. :p

Improved Grapple has pinned your soul, hasn't it? :p

Well I would rather they have Improved Grab than Trip, and it also helps distinguish them from a "war trained" Riding Dog.

Works for me! That way, eager DMs (like yourself) can allow for additional training to add Trip to the mix. ;)
 

Improved Grapple has pinned your soul, hasn't it? :p

Only when I forget to cast freedom of movement. :)

Works for me! That way, eager DMs (like yourself) can allow for additional training to add Trip to the mix. ;)

Let's go for that then, I'd make the Improved Grab work for sizes up to 1 larger than the dog (as per Improved Grapple) rather than the default of 1 size smaller, since I want it wrastling bears and human adventurers, not halflings.

Time for a Working Draft...
 

War Dog Working Draft

Dog, War
Medium Animal
Hit Dice: 2d8+4 (13 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares)
Armor Class: 17 (+1 Dex, +4 natural, +2 leather armor), touch 11, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+4
Attack: Bite +4 melee (1d8+4)
Full Attack: Bite +4 melee (1d8+4)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Improved grab
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent
Saves: Fort +5, Ref +4, Will +1
Abilities: Str 17, Dex 13, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 6
Skills: Jump +11, Listen +5, Spot +5, Swim +4, Survival +1
Feats: Alertness, Track (B)
Environment: Temperate plains
Organization: Domesticated
Challenge Rating: 1
Advancement:
Level Adjustment:

A powerfully built dog with a massive head and heavy jaws. It is dressed in armor of cured leather.

A war dog is a canine specially bred for strength and aggression, then trained for warfare or guard duty.

War dogs are proficient in light armor and are normally dressed in leather barding by their owners. A few war dogs wear spiked armor, they are not proficient in weapons so have a -4 penalty to attack with armor spikes.

A typical war dog is 2½ to 3 feet tall at the shoulder and weighs from 150 to 180 pounds.

Combat
A war dog will attack on command or when threatened by a stranger. Normally, the dog grabs its opponent and tears into them with its jaws. War dogs with special training (see Training a War Dog, below) can be taught to pin or disarm an opponent on command, instead of fighting to kill or injure. A few war dogs can make trip attacks just as wolves do (see the Wolf entry).

Improved Grab (Ex):
To use this ability, a war dog must hit an opponent up to 1 size category larger than itself with its bite attack. It can then attempt to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. If it wins the grapple check, it establishes a hold.

Skills: War dogs have a +4 racial bonus on Jump checks.


Training A War Dog
War dogs can be trained for a general purpose and taught tricks following the rules for the Handle Animal skill. A trained war dog gains the attack trick as a bonus trick, in addition to the maximum of 6 tricks it can learn with its Intelligence of 2. Some war dogs are taught tricks that are not in the standard selection described in the Handle Animal skill. Most such tricks teach the dog to use a particular special attack against an opponent on command. Examples of these "combat tricks" (and their associated Handle Animal DCs) include Disarm (DC 25), Pin (DC 20) or Trip (DC 25).

War dog pups are worth 50 gp apiece on the open market, while trained war dogs are worth 250Y gp each. Professional trainers charge 100 gp to rear or train a war dog.
 
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I'm wondering about lowering the Dex to 13, like the SRD Hellhound, so it's not all-around better than a Riding Dog in a fight.

Also, I imagine them being overmuscled bruisers, so might not be as agile as a regular Medium-sized dog.
 

Yeah, let's lower the Dex.

Since they theoretically are only found where they are domesticated, and organization of "Any" makes sense.
 





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