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Converting True Dragons

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I'm looking at the grappling rules for suggestions on strangulation.
Being pinned sounds similar to being constricted in this case. Maybe the aquatic dragon can be immobile but take no additional damage due to the constriction in either HP loss or Constitution damage.

That might work. We should also look at the garrote rules in Song & Silence.
 

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That might work. We should also look at the garrote rules in Song & Silence.
I like that idea! Will try to do that tonight. They were updated to 3.5 in one of the last paper Dragon mags, too (but I don't think they were changed much if at all).
 


I'm always forgetting about things to look up at night...

To strangle someone:
1) Make special melee touch attack (provokes AoO, if you are damaged, attack fails*), but certain armors still provide an AC bonus.
2) If successful, next round make a grapple check (-4 if using only hands**), deal damage* or force victim to hold breath**. Most normal grapple rules apply.
3) Continue opposed grapple checks.
*=S&S version
**=Dragon #355 version

If you are being strangled:
Succeed on opposed grapple to escape.
Make Bluff check to pretend to fall unconscious.**
Cut off garrotte at -4 penalty.*
 

How about something like this?

Immunity to Strangulation (Ex): Due to a combination of powerful neck musculature and its inherent resistance to water pressure, an aquatic dragon cannot be strangled. This renders it immune to garrotte attacks, the constriction attack of chokers, and other attacks that target the neck and deal damage based upon cutting off breathing.
 


You're racking up the frequent poster miles. ;)

Updated.

We still need class skills. Swim seems like a no-brainer. Maybe Tumble due to their "amazing maneuverability"? Survival?
 
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Those look like pretty good class skills.

The only other thing I saw looking back at the original text is that they are easily awoken because they tie themselves up in weeds that serve as trap/alarms when they sleep. Just want to put this in flavor or give them an SQ such that they don't take the usual penalties on Listen checks when asleep?
 

I think that makes more sense as flavor, since it really isn't an ability of the dragon itself.
 


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