Converting True Dragons

freyar · Jun 17, 2009

It's funny, we started the faerie drakes at Int 14, but they were listed as low to average in the original text. These are average to high, so start at 16? I could also see somewhat higher Wis and less Dex. Sure.

Good idea on the breath weapon.

Shade · Jun 17, 2009

RavinRay said:
Skipping ahead to the breath weapon (can I anticipate this already?), we can use just the weaker version and say that it can apply a (enlarging metabreath) feat to it 4/day.

I like your style.

The ability score plans sound reasonable.

These are slightly bigger than faerie drakes. Allow them to reach Small at young adult? If so, improve Str and reduce Dex as usual for the size increase?

Leopold · Jun 17, 2009

Yes, lets move their ability scores in that direction then. They are the bigger more malicious cousins to faerie drakes.

Shade · Jun 18, 2009

Hmmm...I fear we may have gone a bit overboard with the last one. Its intelligence was supposed to be worse than this one, which if we go with the proposed increase, will eclipse the red dragon.

By 2e scores, the demon drake should more closely follow the copper or brass dragon's mental ability score progressions.

Leopold · Jun 19, 2009

Then dumb it down a bit. Really won't kill this thing much. We can always go back and RetCon the faerie drake if it's a bit too overpowered. That's the beauty of not being bound to a published medium

freyar · Jun 19, 2009

Hmm, since these are true dragons, we wouldn't even need to change skill ranks. I say let's drop the faerie dragon Int to 10 or so.

Shade · Jun 19, 2009

The Wis and Cha are too high, though, and that's a bit more extensive re-tooling (Will saves, frightful presence DCs, etc.)

I don't mind doing it, but we'll need to have a clear plan before we move forth.

freyar · Jun 20, 2009

Faerie drakes don't have frightful presence, so that helps a little, but they do have a Cha bonus to AC ability. I guess that's a wash. I think we should probably reduce the progression for the faerie drake mental scores based on the demon drake description. Maybe we could just reduce them all by a fixed amount at all age categories. Then adjust the ACs appropriately. Simple enough?