Psychic Warrior said:
In the book The Making of Star Trek the first and last letter was for family names, I don't think they kept to that, this caused a lot of rumors in the first movie that the female vulcan was Spock's .
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Coolest, most vile, and stupidest villians of all time.
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In the book The Making of Star Trek the first and last letter was for family names, I don't think they kept to that, this caused a lot of rumors in the first movie that the female vulcan was Spock's .
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Lando is a great villian. My gaming group is forcing me to watch Babylon 5 all the way through (I say forcing because Season 1, while important to the story, is utter garbage for the most part). We're about halfway into Season 3. He is a wonderful, wonderful villian.
And I'll second the call of the Ferengi and Borg (I always think Swedish Chef when I see that name!) as stupid villians. And especially Seven of Wet Dreams...
And I'll second the call of the Ferengi and Borg (I always think Swedish Chef when I see that name!) as stupid villians. And especially Seven of Wet Dreams...
Londo Mollari isn't a villian. He's the very definition of a tragic hero. He tries to revive his --waning-- civilization, his hubris blinds him to the obvious wrongness of the path he follows, yet by the end he makes a grand sacrifice... and does what he can to make amends for his races most obvious sin, the mistreatment of the Narn.
Doing bad things doesn't make a character the villian. Look at Oedipus...
Doing bad things doesn't make a character the villian. Look at Oedipus...
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Cyberzombie said:
Lando a villain?! Didn't you listen to what he said? He had no choice! And there was still a chance to save Han!
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I think Londo was a great tragic villain. He did try to redeem himself but managed to only lessen depths of his folly.
Coolest: There are some darn fine ones listed so I will add Miracleman (maybe Mr Miracle) (comics). Basically a Shazam clone - the scene that cements him into villain infamy occurs when he is fighting his nemisis and is getting beat silly - he picks up a bus and smashes it into the villain. Internal monologe was something like "The bus is empty. I keep telling myself the bus was empty."
Vilest: Hard to beat John Doe. Maybe Cerci Lannister.
Stupid: I have children, that means the Disney Channel. Need I say more?
Coolest: There are some darn fine ones listed so I will add Miracleman (maybe Mr Miracle) (comics). Basically a Shazam clone - the scene that cements him into villain infamy occurs when he is fighting his nemisis and is getting beat silly - he picks up a bus and smashes it into the villain. Internal monologe was something like "The bus is empty. I keep telling myself the bus was empty."
Vilest: Hard to beat John Doe. Maybe Cerci Lannister.
Stupid: I have children, that means the Disney Channel. Need I say more?
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For the moment I'll just go with the vilest villain.
Judge Frollo, from Disney's "Hunchback of Notre Dame". This murderous, self-righteous tyrant rides down a young gypsy woman, killing her on the steps of Notre Dame, finds that the "parcel" she was carrying was the infant quasimodo and is going to drop the baby in the well and kill it just because it is ugly...
stopped from that by the only moral imperative he ever suffered from, he raises quasimodo to despise himself, he lusts after esmerelda and if she won't bed him he'll burn her as a witch.
I was surprised to see such a monster of depravity portrayed in a disney film of all places, but he gets my vote as vilest villain I've seen.
Judge Frollo, from Disney's "Hunchback of Notre Dame". This murderous, self-righteous tyrant rides down a young gypsy woman, killing her on the steps of Notre Dame, finds that the "parcel" she was carrying was the infant quasimodo and is going to drop the baby in the well and kill it just because it is ugly...
stopped from that by the only moral imperative he ever suffered from, he raises quasimodo to despise himself, he lusts after esmerelda and if she won't bed him he'll burn her as a witch.
I was surprised to see such a monster of depravity portrayed in a disney film of all places, but he gets my vote as vilest villain I've seen.
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Darth Vader, of course. I'll add Boba Fett. You have to be pretty cool to build up such a following with so little screen time.
Scaramanga from The Man With The Golden Gun. I can't explain it, I just love the guy. Maybe it's Christopher Lee.
Ghidrah, the Three-Headed Monster (aka King Ghidorah). That's the classic version, not the wimpy ones from the remakes. Ghidrah is the biggest, baddest monster in the universe. Even Godzilla needs help to take him down.
Jason from the Friday The 13th films. Yeah, technically he's stupid. But I've got to give him credit on behalf off all the unstoppable monsters out there.
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I agree with John Doe from Seven.
Leatherface from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The guy's a cannibal, wears human skin, and sits on furniture made of their bones!
Tanakura, the ronin from Zatoichi, The Fugitive. I'm a big fan of the blind swordsman movies, and Tanakura is the best villain in the series. He's a scruffy pig who beats his wife and drinks too much, but is great with a sword. As it turns out, better than Zatoichi.
Why is he so vile? First, it turns out he's now married to, Tane, the woman Zatoichi loves (from the first movie). He kills her when she touches his sword and, as he lay dying from his fight with Zatoichi, he lies and tells Ichi that Tane is the one who set up the ambush. He had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
-Stupidest-
Tuco (Eli Wallach) from The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly. If he had any brains, he's be dangerous.
Any number of henchmen in stealth action games. Take the guys from Metal Gear Solid 2. You knock them unconscious and stuff them in a locker and, when they wake up, the go back to their patrols like nothing happened.
I'm playing Manhunt right now, and these guys are morons. As long as you are in the shadows, they can't see you. It doesn't matter that you may be standing in a tiny shadow in the middle of an open area, you're invisible to them. And none of them will ever go into the shadows. They'll stand right at the edge, two inches in front of you, and they can't see you.
And I'll second the Ferengi. How could anyone have thought that they'd be the next Klingons? They did become great characters when DS9 rolled around.
Darth Vader, of course. I'll add Boba Fett. You have to be pretty cool to build up such a following with so little screen time.
Scaramanga from The Man With The Golden Gun. I can't explain it, I just love the guy. Maybe it's Christopher Lee.
Ghidrah, the Three-Headed Monster (aka King Ghidorah). That's the classic version, not the wimpy ones from the remakes. Ghidrah is the biggest, baddest monster in the universe. Even Godzilla needs help to take him down.
Jason from the Friday The 13th films. Yeah, technically he's stupid. But I've got to give him credit on behalf off all the unstoppable monsters out there.
-Most Vile-
I agree with John Doe from Seven.
Leatherface from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The guy's a cannibal, wears human skin, and sits on furniture made of their bones!
Tanakura, the ronin from Zatoichi, The Fugitive. I'm a big fan of the blind swordsman movies, and Tanakura is the best villain in the series. He's a scruffy pig who beats his wife and drinks too much, but is great with a sword. As it turns out, better than Zatoichi.
Why is he so vile? First, it turns out he's now married to, Tane, the woman Zatoichi loves (from the first movie). He kills her when she touches his sword and, as he lay dying from his fight with Zatoichi, he lies and tells Ichi that Tane is the one who set up the ambush. He had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
-Stupidest-
Tuco (Eli Wallach) from The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly. If he had any brains, he's be dangerous.
Any number of henchmen in stealth action games. Take the guys from Metal Gear Solid 2. You knock them unconscious and stuff them in a locker and, when they wake up, the go back to their patrols like nothing happened.
I'm playing Manhunt right now, and these guys are morons. As long as you are in the shadows, they can't see you. It doesn't matter that you may be standing in a tiny shadow in the middle of an open area, you're invisible to them. And none of them will ever go into the shadows. They'll stand right at the edge, two inches in front of you, and they can't see you.
And I'll second the Ferengi. How could anyone have thought that they'd be the next Klingons? They did become great characters when DS9 rolled around.
Coolest Villan has to be Gogo Yubari from Kill Bill Vol 1. she's a crazy hot japanese chick! what isn't there to love?
Vilest Villan is deffinatley Dawn Summers from Buffy! Whenever i see her i have this urge to throw the T.V. out of the Window, granted she's not a villan, but any moralistic person can see that she has to die!
Vilest Villan is deffinatley Dawn Summers from Buffy! Whenever i see her i have this urge to throw the T.V. out of the Window, granted she's not a villan, but any moralistic person can see that she has to die!
Coolest:
Villano, I'm going to have to disagree with you about Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan-Maria Ramirez.
Vilest:
Bernardo Gui and Venerable Jorge de Burgos from The Name of the Rose.
Especially Gui... he knew that he could do anything he wanted, and that anyone who questioned him was to be punished. A wonderful example of how power corrupts people.
And Venerable Jorge... to think that he would kill his brothers because of his hatred of laughter; "Laughter kills fear, and without fear there can be no faith, because without fear of the Devil there is no more need of God." That's awesome villany!
Stoopidest:
Any villan from a Wesley Snipes movie. Ugh, they are all terrible. With a special nod to the chump from Passenger 57.
Villano, I'm going to have to disagree with you about Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan-Maria Ramirez.
- First, with a name like that, you're automatically cool.
- Second, "whoever double-crosses Tuco and leaves him alive, heh heh, he knows nothing of Tuco."
- Third, "When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
- Fourth, that walk through the desert with Clint is one of the meanest ways of killing someone I've seen on the screen. Sure, it didn't work out, but that was one mean hombre to do that to ol Blonde.
Vilest:
Bernardo Gui and Venerable Jorge de Burgos from The Name of the Rose.
Especially Gui... he knew that he could do anything he wanted, and that anyone who questioned him was to be punished. A wonderful example of how power corrupts people.
And Venerable Jorge... to think that he would kill his brothers because of his hatred of laughter; "Laughter kills fear, and without fear there can be no faith, because without fear of the Devil there is no more need of God." That's awesome villany!
Stoopidest:
Any villan from a Wesley Snipes movie. Ugh, they are all terrible. With a special nod to the chump from Passenger 57.
Coolest: Darth Vader. No need to explian.
Vilest: Sabretooth. My fondness for Wolverine comics aside, the man has done things that made my skin crawl. No redemtion, no remorse, just doing evil, not for evil's sake, but just beacuase he wants to. (And his parent beat him up, chained in the basement like a dog as a child)
Stupidest: Those trade federation guys from the Phantom Menace. Ugg, they were lame.
Vilest: Sabretooth. My fondness for Wolverine comics aside, the man has done things that made my skin crawl. No redemtion, no remorse, just doing evil, not for evil's sake, but just beacuase he wants to. (And his parent beat him up, chained in the basement like a dog as a child)
Stupidest: Those trade federation guys from the Phantom Menace. Ugg, they were lame.
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