CR of this Encounter
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Since half your party are dwarfs with darkvision that gets rid of quite a bit of the problem.
It sounds like the temple is protected by an unhallow with greater dispelling attached too it. Could you attack the temple instead? Fling fireballs and cloudkills in through the door (since the greater dispelling goes off when you are inside the temple)
The fighters could enter and lure the bad guys within 40ft of the door then the Cleric of Pelor unleashes a holy word from just outside the greater-dispelling zone which will seriously incapacitate 2-4 of your foes.
Sorcerer could go in readying an action to counterspell greater dispels with his own greater dispels, automatically cancelling them each round (if he can only do one, he could at least provide protective overwatch for the dwarf cleric who unloads a whole load of "destruction" spells under cover of the sorcerers counterspelling)
It sounds like the temple is protected by an unhallow with greater dispelling attached too it. Could you attack the temple instead? Fling fireballs and cloudkills in through the door (since the greater dispelling goes off when you are inside the temple)
The fighters could enter and lure the bad guys within 40ft of the door then the Cleric of Pelor unleashes a holy word from just outside the greater-dispelling zone which will seriously incapacitate 2-4 of your foes.
Sorcerer could go in readying an action to counterspell greater dispels with his own greater dispels, automatically cancelling them each round (if he can only do one, he could at least provide protective overwatch for the dwarf cleric who unloads a whole load of "destruction" spells under cover of the sorcerers counterspelling)
Patryn of Elvenshae
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That's *my* question...
Given that you guys are pretty powerful in your own right, why are you walking in through the front door?
Why haven't you, say, transmuted rock to mud a couple dozen times *under* the building, etc.?
Given that you guys are pretty powerful in your own right, why are you walking in through the front door?
Why haven't you, say, transmuted rock to mud a couple dozen times *under* the building, etc.?
Nail
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Just for the record, you're looking for the "EL" of the encounter, not CR.
The CR of each participant is:
In the EL calculation, the effect of the king's CR swamps out any consideration for all of his allies. (Yoows-za!) It's his CR that determines the base EL.
Given that the encounter is in his temple with the Unhallow (Greater Dispelling) effect, that sounds like a "twice as difficult" encounter, meaning the EL is increased by +2 (page 39, 3.5e DMG).
So the EL of this encounter is ~27.
Your APL is *what*?
Yer toast.
BTW: should you happen to win, you'll get quite a few XP. *Insist* on seeing his calculations for that, as I suspect he'll flub them, as he flubbed the EL of this encounter.
The CR of each participant is:
- Kuo-Toa Rog12/Cleric 12 --> CR 25
- Illitihid cleric 11 --> CR 19
- 2 kuo-toa Rog6/Ftr5 --> CR 12
- 2 kuo-toa cleric 9 --> CR 11
In the EL calculation, the effect of the king's CR swamps out any consideration for all of his allies. (Yoows-za!) It's his CR that determines the base EL.
Given that the encounter is in his temple with the Unhallow (Greater Dispelling) effect, that sounds like a "twice as difficult" encounter, meaning the EL is increased by +2 (page 39, 3.5e DMG).
So the EL of this encounter is ~27.
Your APL is *what*?
Yer toast.
BTW: should you happen to win, you'll get quite a few XP. *Insist* on seeing his calculations for that, as I suspect he'll flub them, as he flubbed the EL of this encounter.
Nail
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....and, (FWIW) I'd disagree with you. Optimization has very little to do with it, and I doubt such a consideration warrants reducing the CR by 10.Prism said:
RAW, the Priest King is (2 + 2* 1/2 + 10 + 12) 25. Considering the classes (Clr and Rog), it might be safe to lower the CR by a few points.
How's CR 20 sound?
If so, the EL of this encounter is still about 23. (CR 20 plus a CR 19 plus minions plus temple)
Darklone
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Sounds like two unhallows, one with a greater dispelling and one with the darkness...
Priest king... well, depending on his epic abilities (if present, the DM is 2nd edition), he's a slacker. Illithid cleric... well. You can kill him, I would rather fight him than a level 19 wizard.
Priest king... well, depending on his epic abilities (if present, the DM is 2nd edition), he's a slacker. Illithid cleric... well. You can kill him, I would rather fight him than a level 19 wizard.
noeuphoria
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Well, the encounter is over. For those who suggested we attack the temple, our DM made it very clear that Disentigrate had no effect, Transmute Rock to Mud had no effect, summoning an elder earth elemental to pound on the walls had no effect. After a while I just threw up my hands and shouted "Okay, we get the point, we have to fight the priest king in his temple" as for luring minions out, they wouldn't leave the throne room, which was seperated from the entrance by another room, and a 40 foot hallway with 2 doors in between. So we bit the bullet and went in. The illithid cleric bit the dust in the first round when flubbed his save vs. a Talismen of Pure Good and went down into the abyss. The king got trapped in an acid fog
for a couple of rounds, which gave us time to kill off some flunkies. The king himself had several layers of cleric spells up, so we tried dispelling him while our horizon walker and dwarven defender tanked him. The king's AC was a piddly 44, and his to hit was an abyssmal +35, which meant that the dwarven defender and the arcane archer hit on 19 or 20. Anyway, long story short, our druid, our dwarven cleric, and our human cleric all died, but so did the king. Le Roi est Morte, vive le roi.
for a couple of rounds, which gave us time to kill off some flunkies. The king himself had several layers of cleric spells up, so we tried dispelling him while our horizon walker and dwarven defender tanked him. The king's AC was a piddly 44, and his to hit was an abyssmal +35, which meant that the dwarven defender and the arcane archer hit on 19 or 20. Anyway, long story short, our druid, our dwarven cleric, and our human cleric all died, but so did the king. Le Roi est Morte, vive le roi.
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