Creative Exercise: The Sovereign Dominion of Eyros

[Rystil Arden]

OK, Book of Mormon popped to my head first, but that's not the best example. Neither is the Book of Ruth, though, really.

I would suggest that the best analogies are:

Analogy #1 (which you made): These Dragons are like some of the Catholic Saints which the Protestants (who are based more purely on the New Testament whereas the Catholics added more later stuff) do not recognise.

Analogy #2 (best analogy): The info on the messengers is like the Hebrew Talmud (although unlike the Talmud it is not a collection of laws), in that it was collected later tradition that is not part of the original scripture but nevertheless referenced by many and considered a highly respected source by those who reference it. In fact, divisions in modern Judaism are often based on how much to strictly follow particular interpretations in the Talmud, much like our Messenger division thing.


Since one of the first posts ever said that dragons were creatures relegated to fairytales, it doesn't make sense if they are believed by all of the dominant religion. So probably, the "pure" DL sects recognise the information of the Messengers as an ancient scripture, some consider it to be mostly fairytales and legend which likely contain a grain of truth, whereas others consider it to be true and accurate dogma that must be followed. Those latter people would actually worship the Messengers.

D'oh! I posted this before I saw Mouse's add-on. My apologies. I'll go and edit it away.

 

[Rystil Arden]

To aid in our struggles to make some fun history (and because I'm bad with maps so I can't suggest geography), I am going back to the Timeline to let everyone know the biggest gaps that could have some fun history (I will enumerate all gaps over 200 years long in EY and 500 years old in BE [except that first one, which we shouldn't mess with], and there's always really modern history, which we could use much of even if there isn't a big gap):

2019 EY- 2427 EY: Nothing between the theft of the Royal Trappings and the failed invasion of New Haven.

978 EY - 1875 EY: Nothing between the half-hearted attempt to invade Orrukarn and Death's Caress being finally sealed away

587 EY - 978 EY: Nothing between Jesyra's death and Eyros's half-hearted invasion of Orrukarn

3 EY - 587 EY: Nothing between the Amethyst Crown's creation and Jesyra's death

1598 BE - 974 BE: Nothing between Urtha's illithidisation and Conquers Twice's arrival

3978 BE - 2130 BE: Nothing between Valjin's death and the coming of the Cerebrum Ruby



Good luck!

 

[danbuter]

The goblins of the north have a deep hatred for orcs. This fuels their constant raids.

 

[Sarellion]

All dragons from the war are dead? We had a contribution from Abisashi who said that dragons are very rare and thats the only one I found. I assumed that there were surviors because of this post.

Ah well, Twigglys contribution explains it. Its either reincarnation or souls who woke up on their own.

I saw Mouses post just wanted to sum up the last open part of a possible contradiction.

Where shall we start? We have a lot about politics but it is strewn widely in different contributions. I thought that we had this field already covered. I think we need a summary of political plotlines and house relationships and then see what is missing.
The number of cities who got some description seems to be rather low, too.

General domestic politics plotlines I personally remember.
- The current grand monarch will go in a few years. The next monarch has some dark secrets
- The number of masks is open for debate
- The free city of Mhur is target of takeover attempts
- The animus organization is trying to create the new orc superior
- The Patriae Sicarii got inside competition as their daughters with Sania come of age.
- The Jagged Eye is fighting for the freedom of dwarvenkind
- Military and civil administration debates payment of services
- The pillars want more money and more house troops
- House Kiron annoyed a lot of people by freeing their masks
- Ghalfaen wants to become independant (pretty much domestic)

I would actually like to do something about the crucible. It´s still missing rituals and as it seems to be a political organization, too there is a political aspect. I want to take some time with this, have to contribute to my own setting and torment my players, tomorrow.

 

[Arkhandus]

We need to get back to smaller, single-idea contributions like originally done. I've been confused by the big honking posts of people impressing their vast ideas on us and presenting it as canon without anyone else having a chance to contribute to those ideas. Some folks are also forgetting the spirit of this little project and degererating into arguments and yet more expansive posts cluttering the pages or simply confusing matters more.

Khorod, to get back to what we were rightly discussing, perhaps the Blue Mountains should be in the east instead of the west, since Eyros likely trades some with Indracca and other eastern powers, and both the Quonambo and the (forget their name, the amazonian-like women) peoples live in somewhat isolated but easy-enough-to-reach western fringe territories. From what's been contributed before, it seems likely that the northlands are largely barbarian territory and such, besides the maybe-more-civilized Saagersberg. There's still some open territory in the east as-yet-undefined, so there could be trade routes there to far places, valuable like the Spice Road or whatever in Earth's history, but likewise difficult to traverse generally.

Sarellion, it was already mentioned previously that the Crucible was a smaller, more exclusive religious cult, so it's largely restricted to handfuls of folks amongst the nobility.

As for me, I'll quickly review some earlier facts and then revise my post about Cururultar.

 

[Rystil Arden]

All dragons from the war are dead? We had a contribution from Abisashi who said that dragons are very rare and thats the only one I found. I assumed that there were surviors because of this post.

Ah well, Twigglys contribution explains it. Its either reincarnation or souls who woke up on their own.

I saw Mouses post just wanted to sum up the last open part of a possible contradiction.

Where shall we start? We have a lot about politics but it is strewn widely in different contributions. I thought that we had this field already covered. I think we need a summary of political plotlines and house relationships and then see what is missing.
The number of cities who got some description seems to be rather low, too.

General domestic politics plotlines I personally remember.
- The current grand monarch will go in a few years. The next monarch has some dark secrets
- The number of masks is open for debate
- The free city of Mhur is target of takeover attempts
- The animus organization is trying to create the new orc superior
- The Patriae Sicarii lose influence in the Paes Thanatos
- The Jagged Eye is fighting for the free dwarves
- Military and civil administration debates payment of services
- The pillars want more money and more house troops
- House Kiron annoyed a lot of people by freeing their masks

I would actually like to do something about the crucible. It´s still missing rituals and as it seems to be a political organization, too there is a political aspect. I want to take some time with this, have to contribute to my own setting and torment my players, tomorrow.

Just to clarify: Yeah, Abi actually said that all the older dragons were killed in the war (at least there were no known survivors), but then there were some cracked eggs found that implied that a new generation had been born at that time (making it pretty darn impressive that the later scholars even figured out about these guys). We're all together on this now, so that's really cool.

As for the Crucible, I think that the political ties of the organisation instead of the religious aspects are still a good place to explore (we do have them involved in plenty of intrigue!).

 

[Sarellion]

Contribution:
Not so current history

A 120 years before the orcs and humans declared their empire of Eyros, the dwarves of Alkshalnjar and the valjarian elves got into a major war about new resources near the common border. Alkshalnjar lost the war and the dwarves were annexed into the elven empire. The magical boundaries were increased to encompass the former dwarven realm as well.

 

[Rystil Arden]

forget their name

You're thinking of the Sarynthi, although they aren't really amazonian except that they are all-female. All excellent points in placing the Blue Mountains.

Some folks are also forgetting the spirit of this little project and degererating into arguments and yet more expansive posts cluttering the pages or simply confusing matters more.

While I tend to agree, I think that it is important for those people who feel that they are being misrepresented to speak their piece, so that we can all hopefully come to a happy conclusion. As long as we continue in the spirit of camaraderie, I think we can't go wrong.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Ark: I later realised that you might have actually been referring to me in your appraisal of people who are confusing with long contributions (a la my last one). If so, I'd like to apologise. I wasn't trying to add any material as actual truths of the setting here; I was basically responding to Khorod's plea:

I think it might help immensely if we had a Storyteller NPC explanation of some of this, particularly as the educated people of Eyros might know it.

So I made some stories that built upon what we had already without really adding any majour facts to the setting. If I was the person to which you were referring, and you think I was treating you unfairly, let me know and I can and will simply retract the post.

Oh and Khorod, let me know if this is what you wanted! ^^

 

[Sarellion]

Just to clarify: Yeah, Abi actually said that all the older dragons were killed in the war (at least there were no known survivors), but then there were some cracked eggs found that implied that a new generation had been born at that time (making it pretty darn impressive that the later scholars even figured out about these guys). We're all together on this now, so that's really cool.

The domestic plotlines are all good places to look, except that I don't remember the Patriae Sicarii losing influence within Praes Thanatos (they are the day-to-day rulers, so why would they be?), although its possible that I just missed the post that said that.

As for the Crucible, I think that the political ties of the organisation instead of the religious aspects are still a good place to explore (we do have them involved in plenty of intrigue!).

Clarification not contribution:
The offspring of the bloodwillow Sania is growing up. It seems that they could be a counterweight to the Patriae Sicarii in a few years. I could see a plot by Sania enthralling the Patriae with her ah special qualities and then disrupting the coronation of a new cucullus umbra and so getting rid of the old lich. I think that some guys of the council would happily lend a hand. There is also this Bloodtooth affair that could disrupt the Paes Thanatos.

I think that Aurilion really bit the dust when he fought together with the five heroes, Silvara is probably dead or she is a younger dragon like Alsixnivis. Luxhara is dead or perhaps she couldn´t be killed permanently like the lizard matron. She is made out of celestial light (positive enrgy?) so my current idea would be that she could reincarnate in Celestia after spending some centuries.