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Careful now, you're edging into probable assertion territory!hexgrid said:And I'm going to take an even wilder stab and say that Mike Mearls has read, and does in fact understand, 3e rules.
Cheers, -- N
Careful now, you're edging into probable assertion territory!hexgrid said:And I'm going to take an even wilder stab and say that Mike Mearls has read, and does in fact understand, 3e rules.
When they can't even get *that* right as the OP pointed out, I think it casts doubts on everything thereafter.wedgeski said:These guys aren't playtesting their ability to roleplay, they're playtesting the *rules*.
Beginning of the End said:Maybe for illiterates.
The rest of us read the DMG, in which the second paragraph in the section on "Challenge Ratings and Encounter Levels" talked about parties with more than four members in them. We also noticed the large and conspicuous "Table 4-2: Encounter Difficulty", which clearly laid out the fact that a 1st level party would be facing more than just EL 1 challenges.
Devyn said:Now this is just my opinion, but I believe the point that the "jerks" were making is that if WotC developers are going to use examples of how badly the 3E rules work in order to promote the "improvements" that they are making with 4E, that they might want to make certain to use the actual rules.
I realize that 3E bashing appears to be in vogue right now among many 4E supporters, but for some D&D players who actually like 3E, that attitude is getting rather stale.
Just an opinion.
Telling the truth would help. 3E has plenty of flaws, but the CR/EL system doesn't work the way the author seems to think it does.Rechan said:If they aren't going to "Bash" 3E, then how do you propose they explain why they're changing something?
So it's not "Bashing", just having flawed math?Spatula said:The point is, the article's premise is based around factual errors.
When you say "Tell the truth", do you mean that Mearls is lieing, or just mistaken? You yourself says it doesn't work "the author seems to think it does"?Telling the truth would help. 3E has plenty of flaws, but the CR/EL system doesn't work the way the author seems to think it does.
I don't agree. I think the factual errors are not important enough to invalidate the point he's trying to make. It doesn't really matter if a goblin has CR 1/3 or 1/4.Spatula said:The point is, the article's premise is based around factual errors.
The only thing you could accuse him of is the lie of omission.Spatula said:Telling the truth would help. 3E has plenty of flaws, but the CR/EL system doesn't work the way the author seems to think it does.
Rechan said:Suggesting that there are flaws in the system = Bashing 3e?
Jhaelen said:Errors like this are absolutely typical for game designers because they confuse earlier (beta)versions of game rules with the ones that actually made it in the books. That's also the reason why we so often see wrong explanations in columns like 'sage advice'.