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trancejeremy said:
Well, I disagree. I can't think of many HPL characters that start off happy. Most are like HPL himself - gloomy, studious, artsy (poetry writing, anyway).

Secondly, I don't see how ItMoM has anything from beyond. Sutter Cane is the bad guy, and he's human. He's the source of all the craziness - his writings somehow become real, even his ability to create characters (ie, Sam Neil).

Thirdly, by the end of the movie, Sam Neil isn't struggling against it, he's enjoying it along with everyone else who has gone crazy. (That I admit, that does happen in some HPL stories, but generally only when the main character has weird ancestry)

By contrast, most of those things are very common in Stephen King's writings. A number of his books and short stories have apocalyptic endings. King has explored the idea of literary creations becoming real on a few occasions (like the Dark Half and a few others, IIRC). Sutter Cane is very similar to Stephen King in sound. The actual town of Hobb's End in the movie is much more like Stephen King's fictional towns than HPLs.

Yeah, HPL was a bit influence on King, but mostly on his early writings. ItMoM seems more based on King's later stuff.



Again, I have to come to a friendly disagreement of your analysis of the movie. There is a scene in this movie in the church where there are creatures of otherwordly origin shown. There is doubt as to whether he is being driven insane or the world is indeed being tilted towards the Gods of Chaos. The ending leaves you this question. Yes, everyone in the asylum is indeed crazy, but what of the rest of the world? You are left with big questions at the end. A more correct assessment of the movie would be to say it is typical early John Carpenter with heavy HPL influences not unlike his version of the Thing.
 

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Lhorgrim said:
I read somewhere that there was a production of "At the Mountains of Madness" in the works. Anybody have any info about that?

I think it was going to be done by Guillermo del Toro after he finished Pan's Labyrinth, but Imdb list his next film as Hellboy 2.
SciFi.com had a recent article about Del Toro, saying he's interested in doing a movie version of Roald Dahl's book The Witches (done several years previously with Angelica Houston.) Dahl is the subversive children's book author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, among others.

From SciFi:
Del Toro added that he's got several other fantasy and horror projects on his plate that he hopes to produce and/or direct in the near future, among them The Coffin, Mountains of Madness, Dead Man and Left Hand of Darkness.
 

trancejeremy said:
Well, I disagree. I can't think of many HPL characters that start off happy. Most are like HPL himself - gloomy, studious, artsy (poetry writing, anyway).

Secondly, I don't see how ItMoM has anything from beyond. Sutter Cane is the bad guy, and he's human. He's the source of all the craziness - his writings somehow become real, even his ability to create characters (ie, Sam Neil).

Thirdly, by the end of the movie, Sam Neil isn't struggling against it, he's enjoying it along with everyone else who has gone crazy. (That I admit, that does happen in some HPL stories, but generally only when the main character has weird ancestry)

By contrast, most of those things are very common in Stephen King's writings. A number of his books and short stories have apocalyptic endings. King has explored the idea of literary creations becoming real on a few occasions (like the Dark Half and a few others, IIRC). Sutter Cane is very similar to Stephen King in sound. The actual town of Hobb's End in the movie is much more like Stephen King's fictional towns than HPLs.

Yeah, HPL was a bit influence on King, but mostly on his early writings. ItMoM seems more based on King's later stuff.




In the Mouth of Madness is basically like a Lovecraft pastiche written by King yes. That still makes it Lovecraftian.

Also I'd say Lovecraft was more than a bit of an influence on King, and not just in his early writing. The entire Dark Tower contains strong Lovecraftian elements, as does IT and various others.
 

King himself has admitted on many occasions that Lovecraft was a big influence on him. Something that made me like the guy. But really I think you'd be hard pressed to find any moder writer of horror that wasn't influenced one way or another by old H.P.
 

Watch ItMoM and listen to the commentary. The only time King is mentioned is when it is said Sutter Cane out sells King. It is Carpenters pastiche of Lovecraft. King has simply so dominated the horror scene for 30 years that it is hard to see past or around him.

In any event, I still say plush Cthulu is funny and the trailor lacks enegry and focus.
 

The Grumpy Celt said:
In any event, I still say plush Cthulu is funny and the trailor lacks enegry and focus.

I'd agree but plush Nyarlathotep is just...weird. The trailer...eh. It's been out so long without an actual movie that I wonder if the movie itself even exists. Perhaps the movie is just an expresion of our wishful thinking and the trailer is the destruction of all those hopes and dreams.
 

Merlion said:
Its interesting that you post this now, because I have a friend at work who's a visual artist and he and his agent might be wanting me to work on writing a script for them, and if something came of that it occured to me that I should try and do a script for a deccent lovecraft movie.


But it looks like somebody may have beaten me to it. Maybe.


Merlion I saw this post and wondered if perhaps you could give some pointers on a project that I am beginning for a Sci fi script.

Without getting too involved at this time it is a movie set in a varient earth-time with the feel of 1940's and 50's science fiction novels based around a war between the Earth and a terraformed Mars colonial government.
 

Priest_Sidran said:
Merlion I saw this post and wondered if perhaps you could give some pointers on a project that I am beginning for a Sci fi script.

Without getting too involved at this time it is a movie set in a varient earth-time with the feel of 1940's and 50's science fiction novels based around a war between the Earth and a terraformed Mars colonial government.



Feel free to email me if you'd like, my address is right under my avatar. However, I still dont even know how to write in script format (the folks I mentioned are gonna have to show me) and I honestly feel rather nervous about the whole thing, but I'm always happy to discuss the craft so to speak :-)
 


Merlion said:
Feel free to email me if you'd like, my address is right under my avatar. However, I still dont even know how to write in script format (the folks I mentioned are gonna have to show me) and I honestly feel rather nervous about the whole thing, but I'm always happy to discuss the craft so to speak :-)

I will do so as soon as I get the first scene down pact its giving me trouble.

I am a little better at the script format but I also have the help of software.

So I will see you when I can get the first little bit down
 

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