D&D (2024) D&D Background and Origin Feat Article

[Micah Sweet]

And the tielfling gets 50% off all fire damage.
Just discounted automatically.
Anyone else who wants to take half damage has to succeed in their saving throw.

It's not different just because your reducing GP instead of HP.

Yes, it is. In this case, the fire resistance is an intrinsic or magical property of a material (that material being tiefling flesh).

 

[UngeheuerLich]

And you don't think that dialogue sounds ridiculous?

Nope.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

But that explanation only makes sense if you’re buying from a store that you supply.

Not really. I expect a shopt that I exclusively supply to give me material even cheaper.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Except there are no exceptions to the rule as written (so far as we know). It's like the bad background features all over again.

Can we really wait until we get the final text. It makes no sense to talk about wordings now.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I disagree. Even during downtime it’s too broad. It’d be one thing if it applied to a certain settlement or certain faction or something, but a universal discount doesn’t compute to me.

Which is ok. Just ban that feat.

 

[SoulDoubt]

And the tielfling gets 50% off all fire damage.
Just discounted automatically.
Anyone else who wants to take half damage has to succeed in their saving throw.

It's not different just because your reducing GP instead of HP.

HPs are an abstraction, though, while GPs are a thing that physically exists in the game world.

My character literally has 27 pieces of actual gold currency in their possession. They don't literally have "27 Hit Points."

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I don't third McGyver would be any different if he had an extra $20 to work with.

I speak about he fast crafting table. Not the discount.

At least in all the games I played, non-magical items became so cheap as to already be free.

See above.

But I would be delighted if cobblers tools let you make winged boots at higher level.

Yeah. At least it should be the required tool for that.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Nope.

To each their own of course. To me that whole thing sounds unacceptably gamist.

That's the real issue here, I think. This is a gamist mechanic. Some people see a problem with that, and some people don't. Nothing wrong with either point of view, but they're definitely at odds.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

To each their own of course. To me that whole thing sounds unacceptably gamist.

That's the real issue here, I think. This is a gamist mechanic. Some people see a problem with that, and some people don't. Nothing wrong with either point of view, but they're definitely at odds.

Yeah. I was dead serious with my comment.
I did not say in posts before that I understand the issue... or no. I think I did.

I see your point and I don't particular like it myself. 20% discount on crafting cost which als reduces crafting time would be way preferable. But I refuse to hyperventilate before reading the actual rules on that matter. Not some web contentent creator paraphrasing rules.
We already have enough hyperventilating because we did not see the full rules of the ranger.

 

[Charlaquin]

You spend years as blacksmith haggling over the price of iron and horseshoes. And have gotten good at negotiations.

But the feature doesn’t require them to negotiate. They just get the discount, no questions asked.

Explain how purchasing an item is NOT an action PCs takes in the world?

Purchasing an item is an action the PC takes in the world, but normally when you purchase an item, the vendor sets the price. What action does the PC take in the world that results in the price decreasing?

How would they get a shovel if they did not take any actions?

Getting the shovel is not what’s at issue. Getting to pay less for the shovel than anyone else would have to is the issue.