D&D Insider - Pay tomorrow for what you get today for free?

I've given it a bit of thought, the subscription model could work. It's possible.

How many people in 2003 were willing to buy pre-painted plastic minis? There was an uproar from the old-school gamers about how they'd never let plastic minis on their tables, D&D was bound straight for the ninth level of hell and the entire gaming industry would collapse about a month after the release.

I still don't use plastic minis for PC's, but I sure do appreciate not having to spend 30+ hours painting a goblin horde to have passable minis on the table. The Harbingers and Dragoneyes often looked like those toys you can get out of the quarter machines in the front of grocery stores, but they turned around and look really sharp these days. I'm willing to drop $50-60 bucks every now and again to get a decent selection of critters that I can open and throw down on the table. Furthermore, I routinely see people spend over a hundred dollars at a time when new sets come out.

I think the online service will be kind of like the minis. Of course it's gonna suck at first, but if it lasts long enough it'll get to be pretty cool. If the D&D online service is going to work, people are going to have to perceive it as having value. Errata and maps from the printed books won't cut it. The idea of it having "official" content won't cut it- if DM's don't have access to material they generally don't allow it anyway.
 

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I've given it thought, and I think I now understand what they're trying to do.
They want to become the equivalent of ENWorld for 4th edition. So, that's that.
4th edition is coming soon.
 

I remain committed to waiting for the product to make my decision. :)

Anecodatally and absolutely without foundation, I offer the observation that once NY Times went to subscription based paid content, I stopped reading it. My wife paid for the subscription to continue because she wanted the specific content that now cost money, but I stopped reading the newspaper entirely. It's not reflected in the cost, but I know that they are only getting 50% of the hits on the site per day that they were before.
 


Simplicity said:
I've given it thought, and I think I now understand what they're trying to do.
They want to become the equivalent of ENWorld for 4th edition. So, that's that.
4th edition is coming soon.
It is a testament to ENWorld that any fact can be used to prove both that 4E is a ways off and around the corner, simultaneously.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
It is a testament to ENWorld that any fact can be used to prove both that 4E is a ways off and around the corner, simultaneously.

Yeah... Why all the 4E talk? If we keep talking about it WotC is gonna give it to us sooner. ;)
 

DonTadow said:
Now why? That just sounds like the animosity at the big corporate giant talking. But considering the money and backing behind this new "stuff" I doubt it will suck.

No, that's the voice of experience. Version 1.0 software is always iffy at best. Version 1.0 software that is trying to support a mature library of existing data that not only is less than 100% internally consistent but has intentionally designed exceptions is guaranteed to be buggy, or at least lacking.
 

As far as the special content goes, it would need to be rather special to justify paying anything for it. As it is, I don't use much of the stuff they put up for free now.

The for-pay online magazine theory seems to lack a history of success too.

I could find value in the online software and game support services, though -- if done well.

My worry is that it looks like some marketing genius came to the conclusion that D&D would really be a goldmine if they could just tap into the massive market of non-DMing players and get them to finally spend some money for a change.

The problem is that few players do spend money beyond the core books and whatever books apply to their classes. Moreover, they don't need the online tools since it's easier to do your one character by hand -- heck, it's even fun.

The people who really can make use of software tools are DMs -- and like everyone's said, if you're limited to 10 slots this thing'll be useless for us.
 


Ogrork the Mighty said:
How many professional websites out there only charge $5/month? Not too many. $9.99 seems more likely to me.
Steve Jackson Games has the Pyramid site for $20 a year. Articles, archives, forums, chat, and the chance to playtest SJG material.

They also have The Journal of the Travellers Aid Society, an ezine for all versions of Traveller. Also $20 a year with the same benefits as Pyramid.
 
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