D&D General D&D: Literally Don't Understand This

[Gradine]

It was a more innocent age, or maybe not; though I have to say that it is curious that people want to complain about modern D&D vs playing one of the literally thousand other games out there.

Scrolling through I had to do a double take, like... why is somebody posting a picture of a, err--........ personal massage tool in this thread?

 

[Necropolitan]

Then I do not think you qualify as someone who hates the idea of modernizing the game - to hate an idea of something means to hate all its aspects and these are all listed as such.

You were saying that people who took issue with it also hated the others though.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

You were saying that people who took issue with it also hated the others though.

No, I have said "all of them are derided by people who hate the idea of "modernizing" the game."

 

[Lakesidefantasy]

The apparatus of Kwalish is a giant submersible crab robot powered by magic. One of the old TSR modules (I forget which) had a room that was magically kept cold where food was stored (a walk in freezer). Sending stones are walkie-talkies. D&D had all manner of anachronistic magical technology even before Eberron. And I'm old enough to remember when "robots and choo-choos" where going to kill D&D. In 2003.

(Actually, I'm old enough to remember how rapiers in the 3e PHB was considered too futuristic for D&D's "medieval timeframe", and don't even get me started on the arquebus in 2e's PHB. But there it was, in the equipment list next to bronze plate mail. D&D has been nothing of not anachronistic)

The first adventure in the Golden Vault is trash. We played it and at one point one of the Players asked, in ernest, if their Character could spot any surveillance cameras; and the Dungeon Master had the balls to say, "No, of course not, this is a medieval world." This after we walked past the gift shop and through the cafe past specimens in glass cases and dinosaur exhibits.

Of course, with enough effort, we could probably find a medieval museum with a gift shop in medieval China. It's always China.

 

[Scribe]

The Way of Four Elements monk archetype?

Way of Four Elements was an obvious Avatar reference; they didn't even bother renaming the Water Whip!

I'll allow it.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

On the topic of pattern recognition:

Start the video at the 11:20 mark and you will recognize a pattern within half a minute.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

The first adventure in the Golden Vault is trash. We played it and at one point one of the Players asked, in ernest, if their Character could spot any surveillance cameras; and the Dungeon Master had the balls to say, "No, of course not, this is a medieval world." This after we walked past the gift shop and through the cafe past specimens in glass cases and dinosaur exhibits.

Yeah, this is the sort of porting modern things into medieval setting that I really don't like. Assuming of course, that the setting isn't some sort of Shadowrun or Arcane style thing that is wholly and intentionally non-medieval. But then there probably would have been the security cameras or some such as well. It just comes across as the author either being clueless, or as a joke. In what setting is this supposed to take place?

 

[Not a Decepticon]

The first adventure in the Golden Vault is trash. We played it and at one point one of the Players asked, in ernest, if their Character could spot any surveillance cameras; and the Dungeon Master had the balls to say, "No, of course not, this is a medieval world." This after we walked past the gift shop and through the cafe past specimens in glass cases and dinosaur exhibits.

First gift shop dates back to 1894. Oldest museum i nthe world opened in 1471.

 

[bedir than]

Oldest museum i nthe world opened in 1471.

2000 years before that

The world’s oldest museums

The world's oldest museum was built 2,500 years ago and discovered in 1925 by archaeologist Leonard Wooley. While we can only imagine how this ancient museum...

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The oldest such museum in evidence was Ennigaldi-Nanna's museum, dating from c. 530 BC and devoted to Mesopotamian antiquities.

The Middle East exists.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

First gift shop dates back to 1894.

Which makes it pretty modern.

Oldest museum i nthe world opened in 1471.

Did they have dinosaur bones in glass cases?

It is not about the concept of a museum, it is about the modern presentation of it.