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Media D&D Realms Maps
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ilgatto
How inconvenient
1) Could you explain how the above works, @tomvet?
Do you say that you have "AI create maps", which are then "supervised and redrawn by hand by professional artists" and, um... sold?
Does anything happen between the "redrawing by hand" and the selling? Is this the "solution developed specifically for professional designers, which allows us to integrate technological innovation with manual art" you speak of? Does this "solution" involve the use of AI?
2) So the "we" in the statement below are not the "professional artists"?
3) Are the people named in the image below some of the "Thousands of RPG Enthusiasts" who have "Chosen D&D Realms"?
4) Is our right to a refund a "Service"?
Hi @ilgatto I don't really understand what you mean with the first question but I'll try to answer you anyway. After the drawing phase, the map is directly added to the collection. And consequently the sale.
Answer to question number 2: no, our artists are professional artists who do it for a living, but as a hobby they draw rpg maps, their creations in the work environment have nothing to do with the rpg world.
Answer to question number 3: obviously, they are some of the people who wanted to leave us feedback and we decided to implement their messages within the website.
Answer to question number 4: no, the refund is always guaranteed (if it meets the necessary conditions to be issued)
I hope I have been able to answer your question exhaustively.
ilgatto
How inconvenient
So is the "redrawing by hand" done by hand and pen/pencil/brush whatever and paper? Or is it done using the "solution developed specifically for professional designers"?
Hmm..., then I guess you were lucky that these four folks were particularly well-versed in corporate speak.
the redrawing phase is a mix. where the software fails to operate intervine the artist drawing the necessary through special drawing software such as adobe illustrator, he does not physically draw on paper with a pencil, they are all drawings made in digital motion on the computer
Could you explain what 'where the software fails to operate intervine the artist drawing the necessary' -- I fear there is a language barrier there.
Is it one of these three options? (that sentence makes it sound like it's #3) --
1) The AI makes a map and then the artist draws a map from scratch inspired by the AI's creation.
2) The AI makes a map and then the artist copies it manually.
3) The AI makes a map and then the artist edits it where necessary.
I would also second those who have indicated that artists should always be credited for their work.
all the e options, that's not a rule, it change map by map.
by the way we will uptade soon the website in roder to credited all the people that work at this project
Review of "D&D Realms" (dndrealms.com)
D&D Realms purports to sell 5,000 D&D maps for £22. Additionally, there are 250+ character tokens available. They claim to have thousands of satisfied customers, so they're clearly very successful.
As it's impossible to preview the product outside of some small cropped thumbnails, I've taken a hit for the team and purchased the basic pack for £22 (there are 'advanced' and 'complete' packs for £26 and £31, respectively). Here's a basic review, with a few selected examples.
So, after purchase you get an email with a link to a folder online full of maps. Some are overheard views, others are isometric views.
The folder contains a whole load of subfolders, each with a map type in it. The folders basically look like this (this is the 'country" folder):
The maps within (and each folder has between 4 and 50-ish maps) are all given the same title.
"A bustling street market alive with the aroma of spices and the chatter of vendors" for example contains 56 variations on that map/theme.
"A bustling fishing harbor with boats unloading their catch and seagulls wheeling overhead" contains 33 variations on that map.
Some others, such as "A mysterious fog-shrouded swamp with twisted trees and hidden dangers" contain just 4 or so variations.
Here's an example of one of the latter (from the swamp folder):
This one is in the 'canyons' folder (along with 4 other similar pieces).
Those look like isometric art pieces (no grid). The 'castel' (sic) folder has a mix of isometric and overhead views. Here's one of the overhead views.
Every map has a descriptive header at the top--in each folder, all the maps have the same header. The above one, for example, along with its 8 variations all say "A mysterious labyrinth hidden beneath an ancient castle, filled with secrets and traps".
The folders themselves have names like: canyon, castel (sic), cave, coral, country, forest, garden, harbor, hilltop, lake side, market, moutain (sic), oasis, park, river side, ruin, sea side, skyscrapers, square, street art, street festival, swamp, underground, village, and waterfall.
Most of these don't seem to me to be designed as battle maps, just as art pieces. I can't tell you whether they are AI or not; the creator will have to confirm that. I would say that there is a very homogeneous look to each maps folder, and the headers sound a lot like AI prompts. There are no artist credits anywhere.
So, you get a few thousand art pieces. I'd argue that realistically you get a few dozen pieces and a lot of variations on them, and that many of them aren't really useful as game maps.
I'll leave you to make up your own minds. If I were buying them for use, I'd be disappointed. As it happens, I just bought them for review purposes, so while I may be out £26 I wasn't really in need of 5,000 maps!
D&D Realms purports to sell 5,000 D&D maps for £22. Additionally, there are 250+ character tokens available. They claim to have thousands of satisfied customers, so they're clearly very successful.
As it's impossible to preview the product outside of some small cropped thumbnails, I've taken a hit for the team and purchased the basic pack for £22 (there are 'advanced' and 'complete' packs for £26 and £31, respectively). Here's a basic review, with a few selected examples.
So, after purchase you get an email with a link to a folder online full of maps. Some are overheard views, others are isometric views.
The folder contains a whole load of subfolders, each with a map type in it. The folders basically look like this (this is the 'country" folder):
The maps within (and each folder has between 4 and 50-ish maps) are all given the same title.
"A bustling street market alive with the aroma of spices and the chatter of vendors" for example contains 56 variations on that map/theme.
"A bustling fishing harbor with boats unloading their catch and seagulls wheeling overhead" contains 33 variations on that map.
Some others, such as "A mysterious fog-shrouded swamp with twisted trees and hidden dangers" contain just 4 or so variations.
Here's an example of one of the latter (from the swamp folder):
This one is in the 'canyons' folder (along with 4 other similar pieces).
Those look like isometric art pieces (no grid). The 'castel' (sic) folder has a mix of isometric and overhead views. Here's one of the overhead views.
Every map has a descriptive header at the top--in each folder, all the maps have the same header. The above one, for example, along with its 8 variations all say "A mysterious labyrinth hidden beneath an ancient castle, filled with secrets and traps".
The folders themselves have names like: canyon, castel (sic), cave, coral, country, forest, garden, harbor, hilltop, lake side, market, moutain (sic), oasis, park, river side, ruin, sea side, skyscrapers, square, street art, street festival, swamp, underground, village, and waterfall.
Most of these don't seem to me to be designed as battle maps, just as art pieces. I can't tell you whether they are AI or not; the creator will have to confirm that. I would say that there is a very homogeneous look to each maps folder, and the headers sound a lot like AI prompts. There are no artist credits anywhere.
So, you get a few thousand art pieces. I'd argue that realistically you get a few dozen pieces and a lot of variations on them, and that many of them aren't really useful as game maps.
I'll leave you to make up your own minds. If I were buying them for use, I'd be disappointed. As it happens, I just bought them for review purposes, so while I may be out £26 I wasn't really in need of 5,000 maps!
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@Morrus firts of all, we ask you to delete from the thread the maps you shared in full, u can't shere that, it's also wrote on the file you downloaded.
in addiction, if you look closely a lot of maps are design for the battles, anche if you need the grid you can buy the advanaced pack that include the software to apply the grid you need. the grid is costumizable in size, color, thinkness, shape
I am well aware of my rights as a reviewer, and I'm well within fair use guidelines. I've been doing this for 25 years; never fear, I know what I'm doing.
I can't speak to the advanced pack. I bought the basic pack, and they have no grids. This is valuable information for potential purchasers so that they can make an informed decision.
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