Voss said:Right... I'm not really concerned with that. I'm just less than pleased at a dull, lifeless retread of 'Cenobites meet WoD'.
You say this like it's a negative thing.
Voss said:Right... I'm not really concerned with that. I'm just less than pleased at a dull, lifeless retread of 'Cenobites meet WoD'.
Truth be told, I've seen a lot of granmas (aged anywhere between 40 and 60) with tatoos, and quite a few mothers (aged between 25 and 35) with piercings. The attitude should be in the expressions and body language, not the clothing and hairstyle. That just doesn't cut it.Clavis said:Sorry, but the Shadar-Kai just seem so 90s to me. Gothy look, piercings, tattoos, fetish clothing. All that stuff was cool and edgy 15 years ago. Nowadays middle-class teenage girls from the suburbs have piercings. Everybody and their mother has tattoos. They talk about BDSM on broadcast TV. It's frankly all gotten a little boring.
As far as subcultures go, I find goth subculture dated and predictable.ferratus said:I think your feelings towards the Shadar-Kai will depend on whether you like goth subculture or despise it. If you like goth subculture then Shadar-Kai are interesting and mysterious. If you don't you'll assume that Shadar-Kai are whiny trust-fund baby suburbanites. If you believe the latter, you'll likely not use them for major villains.
ferratus said:I think your feelings towards the Shadar-Kai will depend on whether you like goth subculture or despise it. If you like goth subculture then Shadar-Kai are interesting and mysterious. If you don't you'll assume that Shadar-Kai are whiny trust-fund baby suburbanites. If you believe the latter, you'll likely not use them for major villains.
I feel the same way when I see AC/DC shirts sold at Hot Topic.Voss said:Actually, I liked goth subculture. When, you know, it actually existed. Wannabe goths just make me roll my eyes though. And this is about as wannabe as you can get.
*polite applause*Voss said:Oh, come now. Its hot topic and AC/DC. No one involved has any integrity whatsoever.