darkvision & black puddings

[evets]

That really depends on how darkvision works. While it is indeed black & white, there's nothing that indicates that it has any relation to the colors that one sees with regular vision. In fact, in my campaigns, it doesn't - some things look very different in darkvision than they do in normal light.

J

there won't be any light- the room will be pitch black, so the only vision the PCs will be using is darkvision... i don't think any of them own a torch or a sunrod or even a light spell...

 

[AnthonyJ]

The general implication of darkvision is that it can work as a credible replacement for normal vision in situations of total darkness. Given this, the black puddings should not be appreciably harder to see with darkvision in the dark than they would be with normal vision in a lit area.

 

[Ferret]

Because Darkvision (to my own knowlege) works on edges, and the black pudding IMC is smooth, all you see is a strong line. What you can do is have it infront of the door so all there is is blank.

 

[smetzger]

Because Darkvision (to my own knowlege) works on edges, and the black pudding IMC is smooth, all you see is a strong line. What you can do is have it infront of the door so all there is is blank.

Darkvision is the extraordinary ability to see with no light source at all, out to a range specified for the creature. Darkvision is black and white only (colors cannot be discerned). It does not allow characters to see anything that they could not see otherwise—invisible objects are still invisible, and illusions are still visible as what they seem to be. Likewise, darkvision subjects a creature to gaze attacks normally. The presence of light does not spoil darkvision.

No mention of 'edges'. I think you are reading into the rules here. Darkvision gives you the "...ability to see with no light source...". Could you see the Black Pudding if you had a light source? After all its the same color as the rest of the room. If the answer is 'Yes' then Darkvision enables you to see the Black Pudding. If the answer is "No" then Darkvision doesn't help.

 

[drnuncheon]

there won't be any light- the room will be pitch black, so the only vision the PCs will be using is darkvision... i don't think any of them own a torch or a sunrod or even a light spell...

I think you missed my point - all I was saying is that something that is black to normal vision (like a black wall or a black pudding) is not necessarily black to darkvision. So, when viewed through darkvision, it might be incredibly easy to discern the difference between a black wall and a black pudding.

J

 

[Kai Lord]

Could you see the Black Pudding if you had a light source? After all its the same color as the rest of the room. If the answer is 'Yes' then Darkvision enables you to see the Black Pudding. If the answer is "No" then Darkvision doesn't help.

Exactly. Imagine seeing a giant chunk of obsidian in broad daylight with a black pudding sitting on it. Would you be able to see the pudding? It would have a different texture than the obsidian so yes you would. However it might take a second to notice it due to the matching color so I'd agree on the +5 circumstance bonus to Hide, which is the same as an elven cloak.

 

[Ferret]

Hmm I just looked at it's entry in the DMG and it says what you do. I must be thinking of something from the last discusion about mirrors and dark vision. That it doesn't use light, so colours are irrelevant.

 

[hong]

I am DM'ing a group of half-drow who all have darkvision and the next session they are most likely going to enter a room that was painted black and completely empty except for a few black puddings. If the party relies strictly on their darkvision would the black puddings have total concealment since darkvision only shows black and white?

You must absolutely not give total concealment, because otherwise, the wizard wouldn't be able to say "I magic missile the darkness!"


Hong "the darkness hits!" Ooi

 

[Kai Lord]

You must absolutely not give total concealment, because otherwise, the wizard wouldn't be able to say "I magic missile the darkness!"


Hong "the darkness hits!" Ooi

Also remember that the Black Pudding won't get to attack them if the elf remembered to cast Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Also remember that the Black Pudding won't get to attack them if the elf remembered to cast Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound.

but he only purchased the material components for Mordenkainens FAithful Hound, he never actually cast the spell.

By the way, where are the cheetoes?