Darth Sidious question - **RotS Spoilers**

[Brother Shatterstone]

One thing that bugs me about Palpatine scaring is that it seems like it comes from the inside out and not from the outsides. (Like Anakin’s)

But I still think option one is the correct choice in retrospect.

 

[Taelorn76]

I voted for option 1; having watched it twice this weekend, my impression is that he is Mace's beeyatch by the end of that fight, and goes between "I'm weak, I'm feeble, don't kill me" to "Noooo, YOOOU DIE!" as the fight's tables turn. Anakin made the choice, and Anakin in my opinion was the one who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory; the story itself wouldn't have worked any other way in my opinion.

Some else mentioned this before as well. But after seeing it the 2nd time I got the other impression. Once Mace goes out the window Paplpatine stands up like nothing is bothering him. I thing that the whole I am weak thing was a ploy to get Anikan to act and to make him think the Jedi had become the evil ones.

 

[The_Universe]

I think Mace really was winning, but I think it's semi-retarded for the lightning alone to have made his face all wrinkly. I prefer that it both be that 1) he lost control of the situation, and would have lost/died without Anakin's intervention - we know he gets cocky at times, and doesn't always evaluate threats to his person properly (which is why Vader gets the drop on him 20 years later). and 2) He was wearing a force mask of some sort, and the expenditure of energy to hold Windu at bay long enough to summon potential aid destroyed the "mask," rather than just having electricity make his face weird. There's no evidence that Force Lightning does anything of the sort to anyone else it's used upon - and obviously, Sidious has a larger mastery of (and thus bigger deformity from) the Dark Side, which explains why Dooku isn't deformed.

That's my take.

 

[Wolf72]

what I gather from palpy's story at the opera thingee was that he had already cheated death and that would have something to do with his appearance.

I still like the idea of him using so much power in a limited span of time that he went all pruney ... Hah! Prune-y Palpatine ... no wonder he went to the dark side, all the other kids his age (Yoda!) probably picked on him at elementary force school!

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

what I gather from palpy's story at the opera thingee was that he had already cheated death and that would have something to do with his appearance.

Yeah, I think the, "Only one has cheated death was in reference to himself..."

Pelagius was dead…

Note: cheating death was/is prolonging one’s natural life span and nothing else. Lightsabers, long falls into reactors is still, troublesomely, deadly.

 

[The_Universe]

Who really believes Mace is dead? No body = didn't die. He is way too popular of a character to just off like that and judging by the fall, which we have seen other jedi survive, I suspect he will get his own comics, graphic novels, or books at some point in the future.

I thought the same thing. He's totally still out there.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

There's no evidence that Force Lightning does anything of the sort to anyone else it's used upon - and obviously, Sidious has a larger mastery of (and thus bigger deformity from) the Dark Side, which explains why Dooku isn't deformed.

But we have NEVER seen Force Lightning being used on a target for that long without stop. Even Luke wasn't punished that much in RotJ. As he's using it, you can see his face not only changing, but there's SMOKE to show its burning him, too. So, yes, Force Lightning can cause such deforming if used non-stop like that.

It was all Palpy's own damned fault for not stopping when it was blocked.

 

[The_Universe]

But we have NEVER seen Force Lightning being used on a target for that long without stop. Even Luke wasn't punished that much in RotJ. As he's using it, you can see his face not only changing, but there's SMOKE to show its burning him, too. So, yes, Force Lightning can cause such deforming if used non-stop like that.

It was all Palpy's own damned fault for not stopping when it was blocked.

I don't think we *know* that, though. You're free to use your own interpretation, but I don't think it's painfully obvious, either. I'd just as soon George *not* explain it one way or the other, and leave the ambiguity, anyway.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I don't think we *know* that, though. You're free to use your own interpretation, but I don't think it's painfully obvious, either. I'd just as soon George *not* explain it one way or the other, and leave the ambiguity, anyway.

How do we not know that its the longest we've seen someone being Force Lightninged?

And if it wasn't deforming him...why was he smoking afterwards just like Luke was after he got lightninged? It HAD to be the lightning. He didn't look THAT bad before, as shown in the screencaps above. But I guess people would rather have their own explanations than what's fairly clearly shown on screen.

 

[Desdichado]

But we have NEVER seen Force Lightning being used on a target for that long without stop. Even Luke wasn't punished that much in RotJ. As he's using it, you can see his face not only changing, but there's SMOKE to show its burning him, too. So, yes, Force Lightning can cause such deforming if used non-stop like that.

It was all Palpy's own damned fault for not stopping when it was blocked.

Actually, I believe Luke got a bigger dose of the stuff than that, even. Not like I sat there with a stopwatch or anything, but that was my impression.

Also, I've heard second or third hand (or worse) that Ian McDiarmid stated somewhere in an interview or fan appearance, or something, that his "Palpatine" face truly was just a mask. I don't know if that's true or not, but I'm gonna Google around a bit and see if I can find a more reliable report of that.