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[Rystil Arden]

No, that's the Ogre using an Intimidate check to aid his Diplomacy check. Anyway that charisma guy sucks, as the Ogre only gains +6 strength from his racial stuff, and probably hasn't taken Diplomacy.

Anyway to get back to the original question, it's his legendary feats of strength which make people respect him and ask for his opinion. Which is where the change from Cha to Str in Diplomacy comes into play, as the words of a legend carry weight.

What if the other guy has Path of the Persuasive, though? He actually is legendary at persuading people, not smashing things. They can both use the +20, so that cancels out.

 

[doghead]

Kill the ogre and take his stuff.

Us old school-gamers never had this problem in our day.

thotd

 

[Rystil Arden]

Kill the ogre and take his stuff.

Us old school-gamers never had this problem in our day.

thotd

If you try that, the ogre probably wins 40 Strength == Owwie!

 

[Bront]

If you try that, the ogre probably wins 40 Strength == Owwie!

There's strength in numbers

I'm looking at either a Halfling Sorcerer, or a Trueblood Shaper or Disciple. Working with RA, so will have something formitive posted at some point for an alt

 

[doghead]

I bet his will save suxxors though. Charm person? Command?

Anyway, us old school-gamers always had +5 Holy Vorpal Bane of All Things swords. Life was good.

thotd

 

[Bront]

I bet his will save suxxors though. Charm person? Command?

Anyway, us old school-gamers always had +5 Holy Vorpal Bane of All Things swords. Life was good.

thotd

My 1st Ed thief had a +6 Defending shortsword. He was fun till his soul got sucked by a 9 lives stealer (which was disintigrated by one of the party wizards at the next action, and we never met again)

 

[unleashed]

What if the other guy has Path of the Persuasive, though? He actually is legendary at persuading people, not smashing things. They can both use the +20, so that cancels out.

Well to start, your initial comparison was severely flawed, as if the Ogre had a 40 Str, the charasmatic guy, could have had a 38 Cha if he was say Trueborn for example and concentrating on being persuasive. The point though is the character is legendary, it doesn't really matter for what, but people respect them enough because of that to listen when they speak. Really I don't know why Diplomacy isn't in each legendary skill group for that reason, but I guess they wanted some diversity.

Anyway, each path has a strange skill connection or two...likely on purpose. Mighty (Diplomacy), Swift (Intimidate), Unyielding (Survival--when related to tracking), Learned (Climb, Hide), Wise (Hide, Tumble), Persuasive (Concentration, Heal).

 

[Rystil Arden]

Well to start, your initial comparison was severely flawed, as if the Ogre had a 40 Str, the charasmatic guy, could have had a 38 Cha if he was say Trueborn for example and concentrating on being persuasive. The point though is the character is legendary, it doesn't really matter for what, but people respect them enough because of that to listen when they speak. Really I don't know why Diplomacy isn't in each legendary skill group for that reason, but I guess they wanted some diversity.

Anyway, each path has a strange skill connection or two...likely on purpose. Mighty (Diplomacy), Swift (Intimidate), Unyielding (Survival--when related to tracking), Learned (Climb, Hide), Wise (Hide, Tumble), Persuasive (Concentration, Heal).

What if it was just a regular Hill Giant that started with that much Strength? Or an Ogre from the MM who got good rolls


But yeah, some of those other skills are funky. I admit it Concentration in Charisma is not one of them though. Undead already use this.

 

[Bront]

They are Dawnforge Crucible of Legend (the main big hardback) and Age of Legend (a little softback full of crunch goodies for each race and some new ones besides). Both excellent books from FFG. Isn't FFG having a sale, or is that over? If they are still having a clearance sale, you may be able to get these for a really great price (like $5 each).

Sure, let me know--and hey, if you make a healing character, maybe we could plead until the healer gets to come along too (no healing == )

The sale seems to be over

 

[unleashed]

What if it was just a regular Hill Giant that started with that much Strength? Or an Ogre from the MM who got good rolls

Well as a general rule I wouldn't imagine they'd have access to a legendary path, but I understand where you're coming from. Of course the legendary ability skill changes are no worse than feats like Force of Personality.

But yeah, some of those other skills are funky. I admit it Concentration in Charisma is not one of them though. Undead already use this.

I'll give you that one...though I've always felt it's a bit of a stretch to have undead use Charisma, when Wisdom is a far more appropriate ability.