Dazed condition in racial power

[Flobby]

Does this sound overpowered (underpowered) for a racial power?

Encounter Psionic
Minor Action Ranged 5
Attack: Intelligence +2 vs. Will
Hit: The target is dazed until the end of your next turn. Also, during that time you and your allies gain a +2 to Bluff and Diplomacy checks against the target.

Thanks

 

[Quickleaf]

Daze in a racial ability is overpowered.

First, most racial powers don't inflict conditions. They either provide personal benefits, movement, bonuses to attack/damage, re-rolls, or rarely special attacks.

Second, if you look at Mark Monack's article "Tutorial: Terrain Powers" you'll notice that 'daze' isn't listed as an improvisational terrain appropriate effect until 10th level, and then it requires a standard action along with blind, immobilize, and restrain.

Instead, you might go with making it a standard action, removing the attack bonus, and changing "daze" in the effect line to "cannot make opportunity attacks or take immediate actions".

 

[Pour]

Definitely overpowered, but I've done plenty of things over the course of the game that were overpowered and didn't ruin it. I'm wondering, with a little compromise, if you couldn't make it work. What about this?

Look Into My Eyes
Encounter * Gaze, Psionic
Standard Action, Range 5
Attack: Intelligence +2 vs. Will
Hit: The target is dazed until the end of your next turn. You are also dazed during this time. You and your allies gain a +2 to Bluff and Diplomacy checks against the target.

 

[Wednesday Boy]

What about this?

IMO, that's a great improvement. Dazing yourself makes it more interesting and risky. And it gives the power an interesting hypnosis flavor that it previously lacked.

 

[Ferghis]

Agree. OP's suggestion is overpowered, and Pour's would work, although I'd let it depend on Int, Wis or Cha, just so the racial power is useful to more than a handful of classes.

 

[Wednesday Boy]

You could also add in a "daze effect ends if the target is attacked" clause to take away some of its oomph.

 

[avs9199]

I agree with Pour's changes as well as Wednesday Boy's addition (though adding it in certainly doesn't change its power much)

 

[Flobby]

I thought it might be... [MENTION=59411]Pour[/MENTION]. I like that idea! Thanks!

 

[sigfile]

Be sure to scale that up at Paragon and Epic. INT, WIS, or CHA +3/+4 at levels 11/21 if you're using inherent bonuses, or adjust the whole thing to +3/+6/+9 if not.

Since racials can't benefit from Expertise and are neither weapon or implement attacks, you want to make sure they stay competitive.

 

[Flobby]

Actually now that I think about it, I'm not sure a gaze ability fits with the race since they are supposed to be telepathic. What about this?

Encounter Psionic, Psychic
Minor Action Ranged 6
Attack: Intelligence +2 vs. Will, Wisdom +2 vs. Will, Charisma +2 vs. Will
Hit: 1d6 + Intelligence modifier psychic damage and the target grants combat advantage to you and your allies until the end of your next turn.
Increase to +4 bonus at 11th level, and to +6 bonus at 21st level.

Does this sound more reasonable?