Dead bodies of outsiders

yennico

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If a party of adventurers kills an outsider on the material plane what happens to the body and the equipment of the outsider?

The dead body:
a) acts like a dead human body
b) decays faster than a normal dead body
c) crumbles instantly to dust

The magical equipment
a) can be picked up by everyone and can be used if it fits
b) also instantly crumbles to dust
c) is planeshifted back to the native plane of this outsider

If the dead body of an outsider does not instantly crumbles to dust does an animate dead spell create a skeleton or a zombie out of the dead body of the outsider?
Does this undead possess the same advantages (e.g. attributes, DR, immunities) as the outsider?
 

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I would describe it differentfor specific outsiders but celestials evaporate into spheres of light. Fiends crumble to dust.

For the second one it's a)
 

yennico said:
If a party of adventurers kills an outsider on the material plane what happens to the body and the equipment of the outsider?

You've neglected the most important part of the issue: Is the outsider summoned, or is it really there?

Summoned outsiders don't really die, so I would be inclined to suggest that they simply "poof out" when slain (crumbling to dust or the like.)

Also, note that they don't have their "real gear" with them; they have some sort of mystic copy of everything, so you can't summon a creature and kill it for its gear or hide. Calling, on the other hand, causes the actual thing to appear, so that's fair.
 

Also, dead balors explode. And at that point their equipment is all considered "unattended items", so it might not survive the blast, depending on what it is. Their weapons are automatically destroyed.
 

I agree with Nail, that is they work the same as most people that you kill.

Unless they were summoned. If they were summoned, like as a planar ally, then they poof and go home when killed like all summoned (not called) monsters. Like what Mori said.
 

yennico said:
The dead body:
a) acts like a dead human body
b) decays faster than a normal dead body
c) crumbles instantly to dust

The magical equipment
a) can be picked up by everyone and can be used if it fits
b) also instantly crumbles to dust
c) is planeshifted back to the native plane of this outsider

If the dead body of an outsider does not instantly crumbles to dust does an animate dead spell create a skeleton or a zombie out of the dead body of the outsider?
Does this undead possess the same advantages (e.g. attributes, DR, immunities) as the outsider?
The caster can choose whether to animate a skeleton or zombie, so long as the corpes fulfills the requirements of the two types of undead:
srd said:
Skeletons: A skeleton can be created only from a mostly intact corpse or skeleton. The corpse must have bones. If a skeleton is made from a corpse, the flesh falls off the bones.
Zombies: A zombie can be created only from a mostly intact corpse. The corpse must be that of a creature with a true anatomy.
The new undead creature loses most of its advantages. Apply the Skeleton or Zombie template to the Outsider. The templates specify which features are lost, which are retained, and which undead traits are added.
 

werk said:
I agree with Nail, that is they work the same as most people that you kill.

Unless they were summoned. If they were summoned, like as a planar ally, then they poof and go home when killed like all summoned (not called) monsters. Like what Mori said.

Note that planar ally is a calling effect that actually brings the real creature to plane you are on.

I agree with Nail as well. If they are called it's a and a.

If they are summoned, however, the body and all equipment disappears at the end of the summoning effect's duration. Between the time it's killed and the end of the summoning duration, it probably acts like a called creature. I.e. you can take off and use it's equipment for a little while, but it's not permanent.

I think it's an open question wether the summoned creature you get is a copy that dissolves or the real thing that automatically returns whence it came when the summoning effect has run its course.
 

moritheil said:
You've neglected the most important part of the issue: Is the outsider summoned, or is it really there?
I asked this question for outsiders who have left their native plane and traveled to the material plane.
I know the effects of killing a summoned monster, but does not know what happens to the body and equipment of an oustider who visits the material plane on his own will (e.g an outsider with planeshift as spell) and who was not summoned by any spell.
 

VorpalStare said:
Note that planar ally is a calling effect that actually brings the real creature to plane you are on.

Oh yeah, bad example. I'll try that again.

Unless they were summoned. If they were summoned, like a Babau from a Monster Summoning VII spell, then they poof and go home when killed like all summoned (not called) monsters. Like what Mori (and vorpal) said.
 

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