Death of the dragons (OOC)

[Theroc]

Well, my concern is whether or not it'd be... legal for me to access those materials without first paying for them. I'm not saying I think you did anything illegal, it's just me being paranoid.

I had been considering Paladin/Cleric but after seeing the alignments of those in the Rogue Gallery, I'm leaning away from that a bit. So, I'm not sure what exactly would be good for me to play. Was thinking Warlock/Scout, but as the 'striker' role is well accounted for...

Maybe some form of frontline fighter? A meat shield, if you will.

 

[hellrazor111]

I allow variants to the paladin, including a lawful neutral, 'Paladin of Order', whos abilities work similar to a neutral cleric. Dislikes the chaotic alignments but cant work with chaotic evil. One of our inactive character was playing one.

 

[hellrazor111]

Oh and another consideration is our only arcane blaster is an 8 year old.

 

[Neurotic]

And as for legality, it depends on the country you're living in, but in general the ones guilty of crime are those that posted those PDFs. You are using publicly available material ... which may or may not be intelectual property (and you may not know it even if it is)

We could use little bit more healing power, arcane power and utility caster(s) in that order...

 

[Voidrazor]

Vosa Vosa, you should certainly play what you want to play. But Mage Armor, not to mention Greater Mage Armor is comparable to any other non-metallic armor that is affordable at this level.

Theroc, you could always take fighting classes on one side and something like Warlock on the other. The Hideous Blow invocation would be pretty awesome in such a build. For any sort of frontliner I suggest a dip into Crusader or Warblade from Tome of Battle. ToB is a good investment if you have moral reservations about accessing it for free. Otherwise you can take a look without using filesharing here. A Cleric/Paladin could also work. Crystal Keep has Paladin variants for all alignments.

 

[Theroc]

Theroc, you could always take fighting classes on one side and something like Warlock on the other. The Hideous Blow invocation would be pretty awesome in such a build. For any sort of frontliner I suggest a dip into Crusader or Warblade from Tome of Battle. ToB is a good investment if you have moral reservations about accessing it for free. Otherwise you can take a look without using filesharing here. A Cleric/Paladin could also work. Crystal Keep has Paladin variants for all alignments.

Yeah, I was trying to see what the group actually needed and work what I wanted to do into it. Gestalt makes that a bit more possible, I imagine. As for the Tome of Battle; It's on my wishlist... which is 200 some dollars long. And, unfortunately money is tight for me atm. I've actually put World of Warcraft on hold so I can put the money towards slowly accumulating that book among others.

Hideous Blow's usefulness depends entirely on whether Hellrazor rules that it provokes an AoO upon it's use. Otherwise it's not particularly useful, as if they are in close for it to be used, if I took a fighting class, I'd likely be better off full attacking.

My main issue once I decide on a class is coming up with one I can play who could be mixed in with a group consisting of evil characters. Which somewhat confused me, as aren't we protecting something?

 

[Vertexx69]

The way I'm seeing it is that we are just eventually investigating what happened to the dragons in the big picture (overall story arc), but right now we are just trying to open up the road. We haven't even started any kind of main story arc yet. And the great thing about playing evil in 3.5 is that its just the other end of a very grey scale. We don't have to hide that we are greedy and self serving like the goody goodies with the shiney armor and moral self righteousness. Grabhar isn't a mustache twirling villain because he has an evil alignment, he's just selfish, merciless and has no compassion for the starving masses. Hes charming and fun and wild, which many people really like.

What we need is very simple; healing, buffing, range, arcane blaster. A few lvls of bard with a badge of courage, the song of the heart feat and the the inspirational boost spell can give +4 to hit/dmg for everyone, a sorcerer with bands of bloodrage and an empowering spellshard can punch out 30dmg magic missles several times a day. theres lots of options I just learned all about the wonders of the artificer class!

 

[hellrazor111]

My allowance of evil is that it creates several courses of action for you to take at points in the game. Just no Chaotic Evil. Which is why i have a neutral paladin, it can work with both good and evil.

I rule that Hideous Blow does not provoke an AoO.

 

[hellrazor111]

The way I'm seeing it is that we are just eventually investigating what happened to the dragons in the big picture (overall story arc), but right now we are just trying to open up the road. We haven't even started any kind of main story arc yet. And the great thing about playing evil in 3.5 is that its just the other end of a very grey scale. We don't have to hide that we are greedy and self serving like the goody goodies with the shiney armor and moral self righteousness. Grabhar isn't a mustache twirling villain because he has an evil alignment, he's just selfish, merciless and has no compassion for the starving masses. Hes charming and fun and wild, which many people really like.

What we need is very simple; healing, buffing, range, arcane blaster. A few lvls of bard with a badge of courage, the song of the heart feat and the the inspirational boost spell can give +4 to hit/dmg for everyone, a sorcerer with bands of bloodrage and an empowering spellshard can punch out 30dmg magic missles several times a day. theres lots of options I just learned all about the wonders of the artificer class!

LoL, and kind of why I want to keep War as an NPC until my friend gets back.

 

[Neurotic]

Except Grabhar just killed two defensless weretigers and earned ire of (i think only) LG char in the party...

Evil may want to dominate the world, but most evil NEEDS IT TO EXIST in order to rule it Therefore they help out...

War can make his shop in the village as it's protector and blacksmith and we'll drop on him occasionaly. Since the is bound to be some problems around he can even level along so that we come to fresh artificer reserve