Defending weapons

[zlorf]

If you are wielding 2 weapons or a 2 bladed weapon with the Defending special ability, do the enhancement bonus of each weapon or blades stack to give you a possible +10 bonus to AC?

Im guessing this is an untyped bonus and that untyped bonuses dont stack if they are the same. So the max AC bonus would be +5.

Defending: A defending weapon allows the wielder to transfer some of all of the sword's enhancement bonus to his AC as a bonus that stacks with all others. As a free action, the wielder chooses how to allocate the weapon's enhancement bonus at the start of the him turn before using the weapon, and the effect to AC lasts until his next turn.
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Cheers
Z

 

[ValhallaGH]

The ability specifically says that it stacks with all others. So if you have two defending weapons that you are fighting with then they could both be used at the same time, for a maximum pre-epic benefit of +10 to AC.

Note that both weapons must be defending. Having a +4 defending dagger and a +4 keen rapier does not allow you to get a +8 bonus from defending, only a +4 from the dagger. Similarly, both ends of a double weapon must be defending to use both bonuses with the defending property.

 

[zlorf]

Defending Weapons

Do you think the AC bonus is a untyped bonus and if so they wouldnt stack right?. A dwarven defender cannot use defensive stance multiple time to increase his str etc. So why would they be different with a defending weapon?

Thanks for the input
Z

The ability specifically says that it stacks with all others. So if you have two defending weapons that you are fighting with then they could both be used at the same time, for a maximum pre-epic benefit of +10 to AC.

Note that both weapons must be defending. Having a +4 defending dagger and a +4 keen rapier does not allow you to get a +8 bonus from defending, only a +4 from the dagger. Similarly, both ends of a double weapon must be defending to use both bonuses with the defending property.

 

[starwed]

So why would they be different with a defending weapon?

Because of the line:

A defending weapon allows the wielder to transfer some or all of the sword’s enhancement bonus to his AC as a bonus that stacks with all others.

 

[zlorf]

Defending Weapons

Because of the line:

Depends on how you read it, it refers to "sword's" , this is 1 sword and yes it stack with all other enhancement. But does it stack with itself..ie you have two swords.

Cheers
Z

 

[Rhun]

I would rule that the benefit of having two defending weapons do stack. I see nothing that would suggest otherwise.

 

[Stalker0]

I would also say they stack, it does say stack with all others, which should overcome stacking rules like same bonus or coming from the same source.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Depends on how you read it, it refers to "sword's" , this is 1 sword and yes it stack with all other enhancement. But does it stack with itself..ie you have two swords.

I can't believe that you are being serious here. Are you?

 

[Moon-Lancer]

it is a thin hair to split indeed, but it may be right, in the end. If it stacks with "all other" other could be interprited as "other then its self" becuse as it stands, other is a redundent word and is un needed if two defending weapons stacked with eachother.

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Then again it could be just wizards is trying to use fancy words, becuse if they took the word other out, it would be an incompleat sentences. I think if two defnding weapons dident stack and other was removed, it would have to say, all sorces rather then all other

 

[pawsplay]

The default condition is that a bonus does not stack with itself. Since defending says "all others," it would not stack with another bonus from a defending weapon.