D&D 5E Defensive Duelist fix?

[DND_Reborn]

I’ve got Rogues with Sentinel in my games who get 2 SA attacks per round quite often, and it’s not at all too powerful.

Yep. We do, as well. Two rogues, one with it and one without it.

 

[Xeviat]

Let it give you advantage when it causes their attack to miss.

Actually! I really like this. Double chance to hit would be fairly close to getting a second attack attempt.

But, riposte would negate the chances of getting an opportunity attack, so again there's multiple balancing points there for a rogue.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Let it give you advantage when it causes their attack to miss.

Sure, that would be great, and make this revision even more of a must want for rogues.

"Wait, he missed? Cool, now not only can I use my reaction to attack him, but it triggers my sneak attack automatically! Man, this is awesome!!! drools

 

[FrogReaver]

Sure, that would be great, and make this revision even more of a must want for rogues.

"Wait, he missed? Cool, now not only can I use my reaction to attack him, but it triggers my sneak attack automatically! Man, this is awesome!!! drools

How does a rogue use a reaction to attack him? He’s already used one for defensive duelist and what reaction allows a rogue to attack?

 

[DND_Reborn]

How does a rogue use a reaction to attack him? He’s already used one for defensive duelist and what reaction allows a rogue to attack?

Sorry, we (the posts in general...) were discussing the Riposte, and I thought you were saying grant advantage on the attack caused when using Riposte.

What attack were you talking about?

 

[jmartkdr2]

How does a rogue use a reaction to attack him? He’s already used one for defensive duelist and what reaction allows a rogue to attack?

The suggestion was for the character to get a free riposte is the parry causes an attack to miss.

 

[Cap'n Kobold]

Defensive Duellist in its current form can be pretty nasty. I've gotten a lot of good use out of it combined with plate and shield, particularly at high levels.

I would hesitate before granting its AC bonus in addition to an out-of-turn attack. Perhaps something more like:
Parry-Riposte.
When an opponent within your reach makes an attack against you, as a reaction you may impose disadvantage on the attack roll. If the opponent rolls two dice and both would have missed you, you may make an immediate melee attack against them.

Sure, that would be great, and make this revision even more of a must want for rogues.

"Wait, he missed? Cool, now not only can I use my reaction to attack him, but it triggers my sneak attack automatically! Man, this is awesome!!! drools

. . .
I'm pretty sure Frogreaver is talking about gaining advantage instead of attacking out-of-turn.

 

[FrogReaver]

Let it give you advantage when it causes their attack to miss.

I thought we were talking about defensive duelist. This was my suggested enhancement.

 

[Laurefindel]

The parry ability has precedents in the Monstrous Manual. For the sake of continuity, i wouldn't add any riders to the parry.
I like the addition of riposte as an additional use for your reaction with the Defensive Duelist feat however.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Let it give you advantage when it causes their attack to miss.

And back to my point: advantage on what?

Your next attack before the end of your next turn?
The next attack you make against the attacker you parry?

Since some of us were discussing the Riposte attack option, my thought was you meant that, and would make that feature very powerful for Rogues.