Define evil

Dogbrain said:
What of it? If we are to eradicate evil, we must eradicate its source. If evil is nothing but a human construct, then we must eradicate humanity.
If we wanted to eradicate it, yes, but do we? Without the bad, is there a good? Do we move forth, do we grow, can our nature allow us to not have evil in our lives, so that we can yell out to the darkness "I am good!" :cool:
 

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Would we want an only good world? It is my theory that however much a human has, he or she wants more. Therefore in a world in which everyone was happy, everyone would have everything and would be unhappy with it. :confused: Is it possible for there to be a perfect world? Remember the first matrix movie, where Smith tells Morfeus about the first matrix?
 

John Stuart Mill came up with the Harm Principle:

"...the sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their number, is self-protection. That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilised community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinion of others, to do so would be wise, or even right...The only part of the conduct of anyone, for which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign."

Another way to put it is to say that evil is the initiation of harm (through force or fraud) against others. You can defend yourself, but you can't hurt other people except when they threaten your own rights (life, liberty, etc...). To do so would be an evil act.

You don't even have to wait for the other guy to hit you. If he has his fist raised at you, you are allowed to hit him first. A credible, imminent threat of force is the same as force.
 


Sado said:
You don't even have to wait for the other guy to hit you. If he has his fist raised at you, you are allowed to hit him first. A credible, imminent threat of force is the same as force.

W3rd.

Since attack is the most effective form of defence, and surprise is the key factor in a successful attack...
 

my definition of evil: Concern only for your own personal desires and goals, whether or not they may be harmful to others. Therefore, selfish motivations (i look at the so-called "7 deadly sins" as a good model - wrath, envy, greed, lust, sloth, pride, and gluttony) are the root of evil behaviors. Obviously, there are degrees of evil, as everyone falls prey to this from time to time, and people are not any more inherently evil than they are inherently good. Some of us, however, choose to think this way more often than not, and some of us choose to try to avoid thinking that way.
 

How is it "evil"? If evil is merely a social construction, then humans are ultimately the origin of evil. Therefore, whatever obliterates that ultimate origin of evil must be good.
-Dogbrain-

So, by my logic, conjuring a demon army to wipe out the human race makes me good? SW33T :D

PS: how do I do the box thing around the quote?
 
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Taneel BrightBlade said:
PS: how do I do the box thing around the quote?

Either hit the reply button in the post you want to quote from or precede the text you want to box with quote inside square brackets/parentheses - [ and ] then follow the text with /quote (once again inside square brackets/parentheses).
 

Hand of Evil said:
If we wanted to eradicate it, yes, but do we? Without the bad, is there a good? Do we move forth, do we grow, can our nature allow us to not have evil in our lives, so that we can yell out to the darkness "I am good!"

Grow? Irrelevant. If humanity is the origin of all evil, then humanity is irrevocably tainted, too polluted to be permitted to exist.
 

Taneel BrightBlade said:
How is it "evil"? If evil is merely a social construction, then humans are ultimately the origin of evil. Therefore, whatever obliterates that ultimate origin of evil must be good.
-Dogbrain-

So, by my logic, conjuring a demon army to wipe out the human race makes me good? SW33T :D

If, by so doing, you eradicate all evil.
 

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