D&D 5E (2014) (Deleted)

[dave2008]

Hopefully posters know from the 5E D&D prefix that I am asking about 5E.

I'll update the OP to emphasize that.

Yes, I assumed as much too; however, I think it is helpful to know how editions affect the need / desire for house rules.

 

[dave2008]

It was a word omission, known as a mistake , when I edited the OP. Sorry for the confusion!




It is right in the title of the thread and in the poll question and in the OP.

"House-rules/ Homebrew" and:

So, I don't know what I could have said to make it clearer.


This I can totally appreciate. If you wish to update your vote, just use your best judgement and thanks!

I think the issue is people see house-rules and homebrew as very different things. Homebrew includes settings, npcs, monsters, etc. That could potentially take up a huge amount of pages that have nothing to do with the rules. I personally only looked at rules when I answered. If I had considered homebrew - well I have over 400 custom "homebrew" monsters on these forums alone. That could easily fill 200+ pages. However, my players ore only concerned with the 1-2 pages of house-rules that we use, so that is how I answered.

 

[Jacob Lewis]

Wow. This census sounds like serious business. I better do my part...

Are we accounting for font size and type space? Or are we going by word count?

What percentage of a "page" does a 3x5 index card represent? And 4x6. And 8x10 notebook.

What about hand-written notes? My handwriting is tiny. Does it count even if its illegible?

I got more rules in my head that I haven't bothered writing down. What's the thought-to-page ratio again?

Oh! I'm actually house ruling some things from 5e for other game systems and editions I'm actually playing now. Does that qualify?

 

[dave2008]

Again, so far it seems over 90% of the respondents haven't had any issue getting the concept, which I was trying to keep simple...

Because people didn't say anything doesn't many people don't have issues. It could easily mean they simply didn't notice. Like me until today.

I also find it odd that you you claim: "...is being added to 5E to make it the experience that group wants to play." as you goal when homebrew is often setting independent. My homebrew world started in 1e, really developed in 4e, and continues in 5e. Is it really needed to make the experience that my group wants to play? IDK, it is just what we have always done. In some ways the answer is yes, in others no. Do I count the potentially hundreds (or thousands even) of pages of setting info, NPCs, and monsters. Or just the ones I have added in 5e (even if they are not dependent on 5e). Or do I include none of it. You seem to think the OP is clear, but by grouping house-rules and homebrew and 5e you have made it unclear. It doesn't matter how closely you read it.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I answered 1 to 5, but realistically it is 0 to 1.

 

[dave2008]

Great, but first most of those 40 years wouldn't qualify for the thread given the 5E tag and second unless those pages are homebrew classes, spells, magic items, etc., not world setting content, they don't count even if for 5E.

Wait - why doesn't setting content count has homebrew?! Setting content is the majority of what a lot of people consider homebrew. You didn't say anything about not counting setting info in homebrew.

 

[DND_Reborn]

I think the issue is people see house-rules and homebrew as very different things.

Sure, they of course are very different things, but for the purposes of this poll I asked for both lumped together--

If you have 5 pages of house-rules and 200 pages of homebrew, you vote should be 100+ pages. I am not discerning between the two.

If people want to share just how your content is distributed between the two (as you did) I am sure people might find it interesting.

Homebrew includes settings, npcs, monsters, etc. That could potentially take up a huge amount of pages that have nothing to do with the rules. I personally only looked at rules when I answered. If I had considered homebrew - well I have over 400 custom "homebrew" monsters on these forums alone. That could easily fill 200+ pages. However, my players ore only concerned with the 1-2 pages of house-rules that we use, so that is how I answered.

Then I would appreciate it if changed your vote to 100+ pages then.

Wait - why doesn't setting content count has homebrew?! Setting content is the majority of what a lot of people consider homebrew. You didn't say anything about not counting setting info in homebrew.

I updated the OP to reflect that.

I also find it odd that you you claim: "...is being added to 5E to make it the experience that group wants to play." as you goal when homebrew is often setting independent. My homebrew world started in 1e, really developed in 4e, and continues in 5e. Is it really needed to make the experience that my group wants to play? IDK, it is just what we have always done. In some ways the answer is yes, in others no. Do I count the potentially hundreds (or thousands even) of pages of setting info, NPCs, and monsters. Or just the ones I have added in 5e (even if they are not dependent on 5e). Or do I include none of it. You seem to think the OP is clear, but by grouping house-rules and homebrew and 5e you have made it unclear. It doesn't matter how closely you read it.

D&D 5E does not have an single "official setting", they offer settings you can use, however. D&D 5E DOES have official classes, monsters, spells, magic items, and other things you might use in your setting. If you have added to the official material (more classes, more monsters, etc.) then it is homebrew. If you have modified thing already present in the official material (changed the ranger class, updated monsters, etc.), it is a house-rule.

So, if you made monsters for prior editions and updated them to 5E, you would count them. If you modified monsters in prior editions and updated those modification to 5E, count them.

Things such as worlds, gods, kingdoms, NPCs, is not counted.

Is THAT clear enough for you?

 

[DND_Reborn]

Wow. This census sounds like serious business. I better do my part...

Are we accounting for font size and type space? Or are we going by word count?

What percentage of a "page" does a 3x5 index card represent? And 4x6. And 8x10 notebook.

What about hand-written notes? My handwriting is tiny. Does it count even if its illegible?

Which is why I said in the OP "Use your best judgement." However, in this case you are making me wonder if that is possible.

I got more rules in my head that I haven't bothered writing down. What's the thought-to-page ratio again?

Again, use your best judgement if you want to seriously contribute to the poll.

Oh! I'm actually house ruling some things from 5e for other game systems and editions I'm actually playing now. Does that qualify?

No.

 

[dave2008]

Sure, they of course are very different things, but for the purposes of this poll I asked for both lumped together--

If you have 5 pages of house-rules and 200 pages of homebrew, you vote should be 100+ pages. I am not discerning between the two.

If people want to share just how your content is distributed between the two (as you did) I am sure people might find it interesting.


Then I would appreciate it if changed your vote to 100+ pages then.


I updated the OP to reflect that.


D&D 5E does not have an single "official setting", they offer settings you can use, however. D&D 5E DOES have official classes, monsters, spells, magic items, and other things you might use in your setting. If you have added to the official material (more classes, more monsters, etc.) then it is homebrew. If you have modified thing already present in the official material (changed the ranger class, updated monsters, etc.), it is a house-rule.

So, if you made monsters for prior editions and updated them to 5E, you would count them. If you modified monsters in prior editions and updated those modification to 5E, count them.

Things such as worlds, gods, kingdoms, NPCs, is not counted.

Is THAT clear enough for you?

That is clear, but I don't agree with your distinction and do not wish to participate in this poll. If possible, I will remove my vote. If not, I will leave it unchanged.

EDIT: I could not remove my vote, so I left it unchanged.

 

[DND_Reborn]

That is clear, but I don't agree with your distinction and do not wish to participate in this poll. If possible, I will remove my vote. If not, I will leave it unchanged.

EDIT: I could not remove my vote, so I left it unchanged.

That is fair and if you remind me of your vote, I will not count it.

Thank you.