Demonic Lore

[Erik Mona]

This thread is very helpful.

I'm currently writing up Azzagrat. Does anyone know if the three layers of the Triple Realm have ever been given official names? It would make things a lot easier if they had them...

--Erik

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

This thread is very helpful.

I'm currently writing up Azzagrat. Does anyone know if the three layers of the Triple Realm have ever been given official names? It would make things a lot easier if they had them...

Didn't they give them names in "For Duty and Diety"? I only played in that one, so I'm not sure.

 

[BOZ]

This thread is very helpful.

glad to know.

I'm currently writing up Azzagrat. Does anyone know if the three layers of the Triple Realm have ever been given official names? It would make things a lot easier if they had them...

i can't recall having seen any official names for them, but then other folks know lots of things that i don't!

 

[Shemeska]

This thread is very helpful.

I'm currently writing up Azzagrat. Does anyone know if the three layers of the Triple Realm have ever been given official names? It would make things a lot easier if they had them...

--Erik

No, there have never been specific names for the 3 seperate layers of Azzagrat. The trio of them also mingle and weave in their connections with one another, and some suspect that they may eventually merge into a single layer.

Each of the layers though have distinctive features or notable realms which might make attractive targets for naming them: Zrintor the Viper Forest is on the 45th layer, and the 45th layer is also heavily suggested to have once been a chunk of the Gray Waste (or perhaps the Waste insinuating itself into the Abyss given Grazzt's activities in the Blood War); or the City of Samora on the 47th layer, etc.

Though it's probably redundant to say, the most information on Azzagrat comes from the 'Planes of Chaos' box set (specifically in the Book of Chaos, and Travelogue sections), and in the module 'For Duty and Deity'.

 

[BOZ]

there you go, that's probably the extent of what there is to say about that. you've got carte blanche to make up names if you're so inclined!

 

[Erik Mona]

Though it's probably redundant to say, the most information on Azzagrat comes from the 'Planes of Chaos' box set (specifically in the Book of Chaos, and Travelogue sections), and in the module 'For Duty and Deity'.

Yeah, I'm on top of these sources, although I need to take another glance at "For Duty and Deity." Thanks for the suggestions.

--Erik

 

[BOZ]

page 29-49, including maps.

 

[Grover Cleaveland]

Dungeon #25 featured an Ancient Vrock (aka The Beast, Jaazzpaa), hinting that vrocks are older than most of the other tanar'ri, IIRC.

I think, rather, that it only means that tanar'ric forms have evolved over time.

The adventure ("The Standing Stones of Sundown") says "Jaazzpaa is an example of a type of vrock seldom seen nowadays, even in the outer planes. The race of ancient vrocks was almost wiped out 2,000 years ago (while Jaazzpaa was imprisoned in his rock) when one of their leaders had an unfortunate disagreement with a powerful ruler of the Abyss. The ancient race of vrocks was quickly superseded by the race of common vrocks, which was less likely to step out of line.

"Ancient vrocks were slightly more powerful than their common kin and posessed two ninth-level spells each..."

2,000 years ago seems unlikely to be "older than most of the other tanar'ri." In fact, I think we can perhaps draw the opposite conclusion - that vrocks in their present form are actually younger than most other breeds due to this act of genocide by an unnamed Abyssal lord.

As a tangent, I wonder if the stonecase spell described in that adventure - which imprisoned Jaazzpaa in the form of a monolith - is also the cause of the Twisted Forest in the Greyhawk campaign, which imprisoned a band of ancient wizards in the same shape?

 

[BOZ]

i like that interpretation.

anyone have any more abyssal factoids?

 

[diaglo]

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for more ideas but not necessarily anything new to add...
The book of Ebon Bindings
by Muhammad Abd-al-Rahman Barker

83 pages
Publisher: Imperium Pub. Co (1978)
Language: English
ASIN: B00073C0EY