Design & Development: Elite Bulette

[Counterspin]

He means a 10 on the attack roll, not the damage roll.

 

[jaer]

Are you saying 1-10 hp damage is 0 hp damage in this context? If so, it's lousy design that does more damage than good.

I think he meant attack roll. If your attack fails to hit a 10, didn't get the AoE in the right place at all, and therefore you do no damage.

So, if you have +0 attack, you have a 50% chance of completely flubbing the AoE.

If you have a +10 attack, you can't fail (thus removing that critical fail on a natural 1 rule, i suppose).

Sounds like a good rule to me!

 

[Gloombunny]

He assumes that's the case because that's how it works in Star Wars Saga Edition.

She. But yeah, that's it exactly. That, and that it mirrors the current saving throw mechanic.

 

[JohnSnow]

She. But yeah, that's it exactly. That, and that it mirrors the current saving throw mechanic.

My mistake Ms. Gloombunny.

I happen to agree with you. It's a great mechanic in Saga and I'm hopeful that it will carry over into 4e.

*crosses fingers for a Condition Track*

 

[Frostmarrow]

I think he meant attack roll. If your attack fails to hit a 10, didn't get the AoE in the right place at all, and therefore you do no damage.

So, if you have +0 attack, you have a 50% chance of completely flubbing the AoE.

If you have a +10 attack, you can't fail (thus removing that critical fail on a natural 1 rule, i suppose).

Sounds like a good rule to me!

Oh yes of course.

I knew that.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

He means a 10 on the attack roll, not the damage roll.

Indeed. If I was a better man, I'd point out the link to the Errata, too. But.., well. I suck.

 

[ZappoHisbane]

Another as of yet unmentioned tidbit:

This gives the wizard the chance to stand and cover the bulette’s space with crackling lightning -- the monster’s bulk means it doesn’t have much chance to evade the blast and it doesn’t.

Is this an indication of a size modifier to Reflex Defense perhaps?

 

[Rechan]

Is this an indication of a size modifier to Reflex Defense perhaps?

Wasn't the bulette in its tunnel? Meaning ref saves in a tight space might not be the best?

 

[ZappoHisbane]

Wasn't the bulette in its tunnel? Meaning ref saves in a tight space might not be the best?

Also true. Which means that we might see a more 'simulationist' aspect in this case. My previous DM's were always leery of allowing reflex saves in closed areas. If you took a fireball while in a 10' x 10' room, you pretty well got fried, Evasion or no. I grumbled about it then because I don't like house rules, particularly ones adjudicated on the spot. If it's codified in the actual rules though, I'll be perfectly fine with it. And it'll make them happy too.

 

[Rechan]

Also true. Which means that we might see a more 'simulationist' aspect in this case. My previous DM's were always leery of allowing reflex saves in closed areas. If you took a fireball while in a 10' x 10' room, you pretty well got fried, Evasion or no. I grumbled about it then because I don't like house rules, particularly ones adjudicated on the spot. If it's codified in the actual rules though, I'll be perfectly fine with it. And it'll make them happy too.

Depends on what's in the room, really. I mean, you could dive behind a pillar or something, since fireballs spread out from the point of explosion, ne?

But then, I never could figure out how you can have a reflex save for half (or none, with Evasion) and not end up on the outside of the blast, from dodging the big boom.