Destructive Rage & Intimidating Rage requirements

[kaejo]

The requirements for Frenzied Berserker include having the feats Destructive Rage & Intimidating Rage...

The requirements for Destructive Rage & Intimidating Rage are having the Rage or Frenzy Ability...

The only way (I know of) to get the Frenzy Ability is to be a Frenzied Berserker, and one of the ways to be a Frenzied Berserker is to have Destructive Rage & Intimidating Rage, which require Rage or Frenzy...

Anyone else see this? Why is Rage OR Frenzy a requirement for those feats if you have to have those feats to get Frenzy? Shouldn't the feat requirements for those feats be the Rage Ability ONLY?

If I had my way as a player I would remove those feats from the Frenzied Berserker requirements but, that probably makes the Frenzied Perserker too easy to take.

-KO

 

[Sekhmet]

It's simple, the feats were obviously meant to be taken as a badger.
More realistically speaking, it's possible that Frenzy is a class, race, or feat available elsewhere in the Wizards books.

Also, don't be a Frenzied Berserker as a PC. It's just not kosher. Having a chance to fly into a frenzy and kill all of your party members (except Dandu) every time a bee stings you is pretty intense.

 

[Ahnehnois]

Rules are written generically to accomodate future additions. So if a new class had been written that granted the frenzy ability without having to take those feats, the use of "rage or frenzy" as a prerequisite would have been worthwhile. This sort of thing happens a lot.

As written, I agree it's redundant.

 

[kaejo]

It's simple, the feats were obviously meant to be taken as a badger.
More realistically speaking, it's possible that Frenzy is a class, race, or feat available elsewhere in the Wizards books.

Also, don't be a Frenzied Berserker as a PC. It's just not kosher. Having a chance to fly into a frenzy and kill all of your party members (except Dandu) every time a bee stings you is pretty intense.

You say "intense", I hear "awesome". XD

-KO

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Well, Whirling FRENZY came out in UA before Complete Warrior did, iirc.

 

[Empirate]

Rules are written generically to accomodate future additions.

Now that would be a first.

 

[BENINHB]

Sohe from Oriental Adventures gets Frenzy

Also does Fist of the Forest get Frenzy?? i know they get a rage like ability but i don't remember what it's called.

 

[Dandu]

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