Discovery Trailer

[MarkB]

Okay, @Hussar asked about forced drama.
I watched the first 20 minutes of episode 3 and saw little but.

Everyone blames Michael for starting the war. Which is BS because she was in the brig when the Klingons attacked. And they had a pretty damn good idea of the motive: that the enemy captain viewed himself as the "new Klingon messiah". As they used those exact words.
It strains credulity.

Burnham did land on a klingon holy relic and then fight and kill a klingon warrior. She then advocated an act of aggression against the klingons and attempted to carry it out, in contravention of both Starfleet regulations and direct orders, assaulting a superior officer in the process. Last of all, she boarded a klingon vessel and killed their captain, who was also their religious figurehead.

Did she start the war? No. Would it really "strain credulity" to think that she did, after hearing those events third-hand? Definitely not.

 

[Jester David]

She then advocated an act of aggression against the klingons and attempted to carry it out, in contravention of both Starfleet regulations and direct orders, assaulting a superior officer in the process.

The Klingons had zero way of knowing that.

Last of all, she boarded a klingon vessel and killed their captain, who was also their religious figurehead.

The War had already started then. And her captain approved that plan.

So, really, they're just blaming her for landing on an unknown artifact rather than doing a flyby.

Conversely, the Klingons destroyed a Federation beacon to draw in a Starfleet ship, were hidden in Federation space, called reinforcements that arrived before Starfleet, shot first, accepted a ceasefire and immediately attacked again.
It's pretty damn clear they stated the war.

 

[MarkB]

The Klingons had zero way of knowing that.


The War had already started then. And her captain approved that plan.

So, really, they're just blaming her for landing on an unknown artifact rather than doing a flyby.

Conversely, the Klingons destroyed a Federation beacon to draw in a Starfleet ship, were hidden in Federation space, called reinforcements that arrived before Starfleet, shot first, accepted a ceasefire and immediately attacked again.
It's pretty damn clear they stated the war.

Pretty damn clear if you actually watched the episode and saw how it played out. Not if you heard about those specific actions through news reporting or hearsay.

Like I said, she didn't start the war, but it's hardly a ridiculous mental leap for someone hearing about those events to think that she did.

 

[CapnZapp]

Ouch, the amount of mumbo-jumbo is making my head hurt

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[Morrus]

Interesting personal episode this time. I really like James Frain as Sarek. He’s always felt part Vulca anyway!

I assume Lorca’s not going to lose his ship now the admiral has been taken prisoner.

References to Spock, the Enterprise, and Constitution Class Ships. I do hope we see one soon!

 

[Morrus]

Discovery just got renewed for a second season.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Awesome!

Lethe was also a great episode.

 

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Looks it Season Two will happen despite the naysayers http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...overy-renewed-season-2-cbs-all-access-1051003

 

[Morrus]

Is there an echo in here?

 

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Not like you can't merge threads or lock them with a link or other some such moderator actions...