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AIM-54 said:
Couple more things, once again relating to The Plan!TM

We need to train warriors for this army etc, so what we need to train:

Archers
Footsoldiers
Cavalry
SOF (Special Operations Forces for the uninitiated :p )

That's an overall look.
What we need to concentrate on right now is the guerrilla forces, meaning:

Archon and L'aurel teach the sneakery and with Frarathir archery.
Kaereth and Archon teach unarmed fighting.
Justice and Arfin teach melee weapons.
Xath teaches the arts of deception, misdirection and such skills.

In terms of conventional forces, all of that, plus Frarathir can teach Cavalry skills.

With this framework in mind, we could, in fact, open up a Warrior Academy of sorts, to bring in outsiders who want weapons training. And their payments can serve to fill the coffers of the refugees, as we've discussed the 17000 is probably not going to be enough to keep this place going for very long. Thus, we train and raise an army to take back Oceanus AND with new students' donations, we help the refugees settle successfully in Hyrwl and vicinity.

It's an idea at least.
Great idea! I don't know what couple of geniuses thought that up, but they must really be geniuses! Maybe even super geniuses! I think these two faceless, mysterious geniuses deserve a reward. Perhaps pie?

Pie?

By the way, I have it on good authority that Apple is in fact the sluttiest of the all the pies.
 

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On the Zoo

1) According to Kat, who cannot post, the Zoo needs to happen tomorrow, or after April 19 if she is to be involved.

2) If the proverbial shiznit hits the fizzan, two people will be dead or captured, as the current plan structure does not allow for quick reinforcements.

The universe, through one of any number of NPCs, suggests the following: that you use the portal stone Mik and Kat found to teleport team sneak in. The remainder of the group waits by a portal, somehow monitoring the status of the others. If something bad goes down, you teleport in, kick ass, and get back out. That way, you can live to try again, later. Think of it as instant back-up, as well as a good getaway plan.
 

I admit, Justice is very intrigued by the portals.

Though they may be dangerous, she feels that they could be a very useful tool..

The idea of instant backup is cool... but, if we do have to go in and kick ass, how do we get back out??
 


I am posting. My parents are here, so it'll be slow posting around here til monday.

I am proceeding in my planning on the assumption that you are all going to be doing something involving the freeing of Oceanus. Disabuse me of that notion ASAP if you're switching gears, again.

Also, it sounds like next weekend is dead as far as DnD is concerned, as well. I still want to get together to hang out with the people that are available. We can do some alternate gaming, or something else entirely. *whatever.* But, I am in friend withdrawal while the parents are here, so I definitely want to hang out next weekend.

--Kennon
 

notable historic references.

i'm posting cause i'm hungry. hungry for slaughter.
mik aka "Mr. Rage Issues"
 


The Big Shebang

This one's a doozie. I sent it out over email as well.
So, I've been doing some thinking and asking some questions. And I have two things to talk about. The first is the prophecy.

Being as how we're trying to find all of the remaining spirit blades before the Bluestar and the evil West people, I think we need more information on the prophecy, our enemies, the spirit blades, etc. So, actually, I should split this up more, share the information I've gleaned already, and then make my proposals.

Ok, On the Note and Prophesy:

1. The Prophesy was written by Raith Truthbearer, a shadowdancer General of the army under the command of (the dwarf who was the friend of the Bluestar, and is now under his control but I forget his name)
2. The journal begins with Raith fleeing from a palace, which from all the clues seems to be in Caer Maelyn. At this point, Thane Apecto was across the sea, the location of Pendra Amastacia was unknown, and Link Woodshadow was leading the King's forces north to guard Caer Albion.
3. When Raith encountered Oberon, the green man was dying. He became this way during his legendary battle with Tiamat, lady of shadow. He gave up his power to IMPRISON her, not to kill her as commonly thought. (Read my other notes on Tiamat)
4. All of this was happening when the Traitor (I assume this is the Bluestar) attacked Caer Albion. I believe this is in Freedom Year 2, the begining of the War of the Damned.
5. Raith Truthbearer was not supposed to be the one to get the message.
6. "Thirteen there were, and thirteen there are, near three hundred thousand tomorrows shall come together to herald this age's end." It has been approximately 326310 days since Oberon said that.
7. Raith wrote this in FY 9, soon before his death in the Citadel farthest away from Caer Maelyn. (This would be Citadel Refuge) He waited to write it until the last possible moment, hoping that Thane, Pendra, or Link would come to hear his message. But they never came. So he wrote it.

Yet somehow, the journal came to be in the possession of Link Woodshadow. There had to be some time between these events, and many people could have seen this journal. We also need to confirm our assumptions on the locations of the spirit blades, and figure out the location of the others. So here's my plan. I'd like to take 1-3 weeks of our 5 week down time and teleport to Citadel Refuge to do research. And here's why:
1. We need to find this information before our enemies do.
2. With the plan we have made, there is no time to go to the Citadel, confirm our assumptions, or find the locations of the other blades. This is something I think we need to do.
3. I've checked into ways of contacting Citadel Refuge without actually going there, and believe me, I've done alot of checking. The closest thing would be to communicate through a Ring Gate (40,000gp) but that only goes up to 100 miles, and CR is further away than that. We'd also have to get the other Ring there, and I doubt we have a 17th level wizard.

That is point one. Now on to bits of information and stuff 2. (of I think 3)

We need to contact Mr. Miagee. Jeremiah, what's your status on that? Reason 1 being that Justice has some questions. Reason 2 being that Xath would really really really like some more information that may prove, disprove, or complicate her theories on Tiamat being involved with the armies of the West.

Point 3. Jaine Rhynn and the Game of Politics aka. Happy Happy fun Land

Ok. We are trying to overthrow the current king and place Jaine Rhynn on the throne of the Falcon Kingdom. This is pretty much going to have to come completely from insurrection/rebellion, because as far as the succession goes, it was pretty legitimate (if a bit underhanded, but most successions are) Not only that, but even if the King is overthrown or mysteriously dies, we have to put Jaine Rhynn in the appropriate political light so that she is the obvious choice for the next monarch. So, we need some dirt on the King.

Here's what we've got.
1. King Tain Hawkson I is supposedly the bastard son of King Maelwys Embries III and a servent girl. However this claim is somewhat suspicious, since the second child of the servent girl is half True Alder, and the King is human.
2. The King never legitimized Tain's claim to the throne until after he had suffered from a "stroke" at which time the majority of the ruling of the kingdom was done by the noble's council. The King was only seen in public once after his stroke. While there is no doubt it was Maelwys, there is much doubt as to whether he actually said anything, or someone spoke for him.
3. The servant girl is now married to a True Alder former member of the King's personal guard.
4. When the time for succession came, the heads of the two other competing families (Rhynn and Filmore) mysteriously died of "accidents" leaving a 14 year old girl(Jaine Rhynn) and 20 year old man (Alric Filmore aka. Mr. Phipps) in charge of their respective houses and up for the succession.
5. There are rumors that Tain threatened the families of the Noble's Council to win their support.

Now, murder, threats, and bribery in a succession are not unheard of, but in todays "enlightened" society, they are certainly frowned upon by the general populace. Now Tain has had over 7 years to cover his tracks, so we won't be able to prove treachery through conventional means that easily. That being said, I have an idea. I'd like to ask one of the clerics to Commune as per the spell. Since it's a 5th level spell, we'd be able to ask 9 yes/no questions to the light/saints/whatnot above. The question becomes what 9 questions. Also. We have to be careful with the wording of the questions as as the deities we recieve our answers from (aka. The Universe) can screw around with the question to suit themselves, though I think this is difficult to do with yes/no, but I've learned not to put anything past Kennon. So. Here are a few of the questions I thought to ask. Feel free to bring up some of your own, or change the wording.

1. Is Tain Hawkson I the biological son of Maelwys Embries III?
2. Did Maelwys Embries III, of his own free will, legitimize Tain Hawkson I as his son and heir?
3. During the succession after the death of Maelwys Embries III, did Tain Hawkson arrange for the deaths of the leader of each the Rhynn and Filmore families?
4. During the succession after the death of Maelwys Embries III, did Tain Hawkson blackmail, bribe, or threaten the Noble's Council to gain their support?
5. Has King Tain Hawkson I allied himself with the Draconic and Undead forces of the West?
6. Is King Tain Hawkson I operating under his own free will?
7. Is Tiamat free from the prison in which Oberon placed her by giving up his immortality?
8. Are the Draconic and Undead forces of the West allied with the Bluestar?
9. Do any members allied with the Bluestar and the Undead and Draconic forces of the West know the locations of the 13 Spirit Blades?

I think this is all three of my points. Please respond. Recap.
1. Teleportation to Citadel Refuge.
2. Mr. Miagee
3. Commune

-Gertie

Please forgive my spelling. And grammer. And punctuation.

Actually, screw punctuation. Nobody should care about that.
 
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Raith Truthbearer was under the command of a Dwarf named Gyan Thunderheart, of the clan Thunderheart. Gyan was a hero of great renown during the Freedom War, and was a highly effective general in the opening stages of the War of the Damned.

Statement #5 re: the prophecy is not necessarily true. How do we know who was supposed to hear it, if anyone? I would posit that Oberon was not expecting to die right then...

Which would imply that he was NOT dying over the course of two years, but was actually doing quite well until some force under the command of the Bluestar was able to harm him further. The prophecy seems to be a last act of desperation, and not a wholly conscious one on the part of Oberon...since Oberon is often referred to as a Messenger, perhaps this was simply the last message he had to deliver?

You are nonetheless nearly 100% certain that he is dead, now.

That's all the confirmation I'll give you. Some of your other assumptions are just that--assumptions.

As for the trip to citadel refuge...

1.) It's not clear that you need to find the information before the enemy does. You need to think less like a hero, and more like an evil dictator on this one. They clearly need ALL of the spiritblades for something. Therefore, you only need ONE spiritblade to mess up their plans. They're spending the resources to find all of these things, which means that you'd be foolish to distract them from finding them. Let them do the work, and then either take a single blade from them, or spend the resources to find just one, and make sure-as-hell you can keep it, this time. If they can take 1 from you, they can take 10. Don't save them the trouble of hunting them themselves.

2.) You're right--in the plan you have made, there is no time to go to Citadel Refuge. The plan that you have made requires the full resources of the characters for the entire 5 weeks, plus. Do you NEED to go there? See above. (On another note, if you convince the other characters, I won't prevent you from going there).

3.) Since none of the Wizards or Sorcerers, nor yourselves have ever been to citadel refuge, teleportation of any sort is risky, but vaguely possible if you use one of the portal stones. The easiest, safest way would be to sail there. Note: just because it the safest does not mean it is safe. It is, in fact, VERY dangerous.

Jeremiah will have to answer some of the stuff about Lord Miagee, such as he knows it. However, if Jeremiah says that Kaereth will run after him before he disappears completely, I can answer some of those questions as Lord Miagee. In fact, shoot those questions to me at home and work, and I will get to them as I can.



As for the Jaine Rhynn thing--if you're going for popular uprising, stick with that. As Fidel Castro would tell you, there's really no way to make your succession ACTUALLY legitimate. You just have to convince everybody that they like you better than the guy in power, now. That being said, go ahead and ask your questions. It's really not going to convince anyone but yourselves, since the cleric just hears the answer in his or her head. The answers are below: (as you read the answers, bear in mind that the phrasing of the question may alter an answer from a yes to a no. As a God of Truth, the Light has answered each truthfully, but remember that ambiguous phrasing may prevent Him providing really useful information with a yes or no. In addition, if the premise behind a question is false, the answer may simply be reflecting that. Hence, while I can assure you that all of my answers are technically true, that does not mean that they are obejectively true.)

1. Is Tain Hawkson I the biological son of Maelwys Embries III?

YES

2. Did Maelwys Embries III, of his own free will, legitimize Tain Hawkson I as his son and heir?

YES

3. During the succession after the death of Maelwys Embries III, did Tain Hawkson arrange for the deaths of the leader of each the Rhynn and Filmore families?

YES

4. During the succession after the death of Maelwys Embries III, did Tain Hawkson blackmail, bribe, or threaten the Noble's Council to gain their support?

NO

5. Has King Tain Hawkson I allied himself with the Draconic and Undead forces of the West?

NO

6. Is King Tain Hawkson I operating under his own free will?

YES

7. Is Tiamat free from the prison in which Oberon placed her by giving up his immortality?

NO

8. Are the Draconic and Undead forces of the West allied with the Bluestar?

NO

9. Do any members allied with the Bluestar and the Undead and Draconic forces of the West know the locations of the 13 Spirit Blades?

NO

 

Finding the Spirit Blades...

What if these blades are in other cities? I'd rather at least know where they are. That way, we have a good idea as to where the west is going to move, and we'd have a chance to at least warn the people of that area, even if we couldn't go there. I personally don't want to see another Oceanus inflicted on these people.
 

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