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Okay so trying to go through everything and put into one thing what I think we have and still have to figure out.
Disclaimer: This is a 'I'm trying to figure it out' not a 'this is what is' or 'this is what has been agreed to'.

Operation Theft-
1) we get to boat
2) we steal boat
3) we sail away on it
4) we hide/scuttle it

for 1-how are we getting there?
a) using the rowboats and folding boat to quietly sneak in via water
b) using disguises
c) use teleport
d) ?

for 3- how do we get away?
a) have the ship appear to blow up
b) just sail fast
c) ?

for 4- what to do with the ship?
a) take ship to port already existing/established
b) find the possible start of a Phoenix/Shadow port and hide ship there
c) take at least one cannon to Hywrl/New Oceanus scuttle ship
d) ?

Goals:
1) To have more proof that king is working with draconoids and evil/bad
2) To have more defenses for Phoenix Army
3) To laugh at the enemy with our victory/victory for Phoenix Army
4) To raise moral with victory for Phoenix Army
5) To have an operation non-gong show
6) To show us working/obtaining goals/leading as 4-star General's
 
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The Speech

I've been working on the speech for the people of Oceanus and it has occured to me that everything we want to say is alot for these people to absorb in one sitting. Taking a page out of Mr. Billy Flynn's book, I think we should promote 1-2 new ideas at a time over the course of several speaches. Maybe we can have a town meeting once per week. Not only will this give people time to absorb, but it will give us time to get evidence about certain things before we go shouting them all over the place. I think we should announce the formation of an army in the first week. That should go over well. To add to that, we can put the amnesty to the bluemages. (to further the army, and increase the chances of getting Oceanus back). We should wait to denounce the King until we have as much evidence as possible. Then we wait. The next week we announce Jaine. If we announce her during the same speech as we slander the king, we have a chance for some serious anti-Jaine sentiments to build up.

Also...if the Bluemages are already on our side, nothing makes a crowd respond the way you want them to faster, than hearing other people respond that way.

In other words:

Have some mages spread discreetly through the crowd during the speeches. At the appropriate times, they Ghost Sounds the responses that we want all over the crowd. When the people hear that, they'd respond too. Hopefully in the way we want them to.

Also I'm having severe problems remembering when to use to and when to use too.
 

Xath said:
I've been working on the speech for the people of Oceanus and it has occured to me that everything we want to say is alot for these people to absorb in one sitting. Taking a page out of Mr. Billy Flynn's book, I think we should promote 1-2 new ideas at a time over the course of several speaches. Maybe we can have a town meeting once per week. Not only will this give people time to absorb, but it will give us time to get evidence about certain things before we go shouting them all over the place. I think we should announce the formation of an army in the first week. That should go over well. To add to that, we can put the amnesty to the bluemages. (to further the army, and increase the chances of getting Oceanus back). We should wait to denounce the King until we have as much evidence as possible. Then we wait. The next week we announce Jaine. If we announce her during the same speech as we slander the king, we have a chance for some serious anti-Jaine sentiments to build up.

Also...if the Bluemages are already on our side, nothing makes a crowd respond the way you want them to faster, than hearing other people respond that way.

In other words:

Have some mages spread discreetly through the crowd during the speeches. At the appropriate times, they Ghost Sounds the responses that we want all over the crowd. When the people hear that, they'd respond too. Hopefully in the way we want them to.

Also I'm having severe problems remembering when to use to and when to use too.
In general, you need to think how this would work in a movie, rather than how this would work in real life--town meetings are great for real life change, but in a movie, it'd be one rousing speech, and then cheers/action--so, go with the movie version, and I won't penalize you guys.

Ghost sound is a great idea. Very clever--DO IT.

Also, you use "too" to mean "also," as well as for saying something is "too much" or "too little" or "too dumb" etc.

"to" is used everywhere else, except for when you are instead using "two."
 
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OOH! OOH! I have an idea!

I just took a step back to examine what I *think* you all are planning, and I had an idea that may benefit you. The real reason we're trying to hide the ship as it leaves the harbor is to 1) prevent the immediate loss of the prize, and 2) minimize enemy observation of what we're doing.

If you can't arrange things so that you can get out of the harbor at Oceanus without being seen at all, the real focus is just preventing pursuit. if you could get past some the outer most vessels, and then have some of them (or all of them) sink, blocking the harbor and trapping other ships within, you can sail off in plain sight, only having to worry about pursuit from above. If you could plant some drakepowder (term for black powder) on several of the outer vessels as part of the operation, you could detonate them as you escape, and call it good.
 

The_Universe said:
In general, you need to think how this would work in a movie, rather than how this would work in real life--town meetings are great for real life change, but in a movie, it'd be one rousing speech, and then cheers/action--so, go with the movie version, and I won't penalize you guys.

Ghost sound is a great idea. Very clever--DO IT.
Cool with the ghost sound idea--
When we get together are we going to go through saying the speech/you saying the reactions or it going to be done like the funeral with us giving you the speech and you sayign okay they like ya?
 

Laurel said:
Cool with the ghost sound idea--
When we get together are we going to go through saying the speech/you saying the reactions or it going to be done like the funeral with us giving you the speech and you sayign okay they like ya?
It will depend on my mood on saturday. I'll probably make you say it, but it should go much better, because Edriss isn't there to taint/misinterpret everything you say.

...unless you guys think I should wait for Tim and Greg to be there before we do the speech thing...
 

Kat's Plan Post...

As for what to do with the ship:

It seems to be that we have two options...

1.) We can keep the ship and the cannons...

If this is the case we need to get the ship to Hyrwl... So... We establish a place along the coast...

At that place, we will have already arranged to meet several able-bodied men with logs and ropes to slowly drag the ship the 20 or so miles back to Hyrwl...
It'll probably take a good 24 hours but, we'll manage.

2.) We ditch the ship and just take the cannons...

We pull up by the shore, unload our evidence, and make like a fetus... carrying a huge cannon... and head out... to Hyrwl
 

Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
At that place, we will have already arranged to meet several able-bodied men with logs and ropes to slowly drag the ship the 20 or so miles back to Hyrwl...
It'll probably take a good 24 hours but, we'll manage.
I bet a dinosaur could really haul that thing, if you choose to do something like this. Now where could you get one of those...?

...

Oh wait! ;)
 

Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
As for what to do with the ship:
It seems to be that we have two options...
1.) We can keep the ship and the cannons...
If this is the case we need to get the ship to Hyrwl... So... We establish a place along the coast...
At that place, we will have already arranged to meet several able-bodied men with logs and ropes to slowly drag the ship the 20 or so miles back to Hyrwl...
It'll probably take a good 24 hours but, we'll manage.
2.) We ditch the ship and just take the cannons...
We pull up by the shore, unload our evidence, and make like a fetus... carrying a huge cannon... and head out... to Hyrwl
I am still not sure why we would be trying to get the ship on land. If we have people meeting us at shore, Seaborn, the sailors, and anyone else, there will be lots of people able to convey/relate the story from 'I saw this with my own eyes'. I do not think we need everyone to see it, but we do need some to see it.
Maybe keep the ship, but keep it on the water where it could do some good-have Seaborn give alliegence to us for ship, but we still take one cannon to Hywrl for defences purposes.

As for Yoshi, see there is a reason we have been keeping him around :p
 

Website

I'm making a few new pages for the website.

One is called Random bits of In-Game Narration. If you have anything like that (conversations between characters, things like "The Solution, Like it or Not" etc) send it to me for posting please.

The second page is called Character Resources, and that will have things like letters, prophecies, etc. Also send those if you have any.

Also. I still need pictures, character info, and news from many of you.
 

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