Discussion for a Kingdom of ashes OOC II

[The_Universe]

Maybe I misread the incedent with Archonis Bluestar, but didn't he make Arfin promise not to use his wishes? Or was it just not to use them at that point?

Arfin didn't have to promise anything. But Archonus Bluestar, who apparently had some knowledge of the future, STRONGLY CAUTIONED Arfin against using his wishes at all, ever.

However, that still leaves the question of whether or not you could/would/should believe the dark doppelganger of Archon.

HAHA! I LOVE MORAL DILEMMAS!

 

[AIM-54]

Arfin didn't have to promise anything. But Archonus Bluestar, who apparently had some knowledge of the future, STRONGLY CAUTIONED Arfin against using his wishes at all, ever.

However, that still leaves the question of whether or not you could/would/should believe the dark doppelganger of Archon.

HAHA! I LOVE MORAL DILEMMAS!

It's somewhat less of a moral dilemma, though, if we use the wish to act as a spell of a level lower than 8th (I believe?), which, if I recall correctly, is enough to perform one of the resurrection spells with relatively less risk than say, wishing for an army of angels.

The real moral dilemma is more over whether it isethical to resurrect someone from the dead...

 

[The_Universe]

Very true.

However, the description of most resurrection spells says that you can't resurrect somebody that doesn't want to come back. So, even if the church frowns upon it, you know you're not going to rip him from the comfort of Heaven if you wish for his return. If he's happy where he is, he'll just stay there, and you'll be down a wish.

 

[AIM-54]

Very true.

However, the description of most resurrection spells says that you can't resurrect somebody that doesn't want to come back. So, even if the church frowns upon it, you know you're not going to rip him from the comfort of Heaven if you wish for his return. If he's happy where he is, he'll just stay there, and you'll be down a wish.

Under the circumstances, I'd argue that's not a bad risk to take, especially considering the nature of his demise. And if we just lose a wish, well, that's one less opportunity for destroying the space-time continuum...again...

 

[The_Universe]

Yes--the consequences are certainly much less dire, unless Arfin REALLY screws something up in the wording.

 

[Archon]

Clark Kented

"......dark doppleganger of Archon" teh. heeee is the real Archon! the archon that fights with the group now is the "extra" one.........oh well.
but yeah, Arfin's wishes are community property whether he wants it or not. so, yes, we are bringing back the duke. preferably somewhere safer so he doesn't just die again.
also before we start introducing ourselves as allies may i suggest comming up with secret identities. our names are names of outlaws, and mine a herald of the Bluestar, and i see it being a good idea to come up with new names.
i think, and somebody please correct me if i'm wrong, only the Duke, if anyone, knows our true names. and once we ressurect him i think he'd be nice enough to keep our little secret.
i don't care how we come up with the names but i suggest we all start thinking about it.
who's with me on this?
mik - aka "Fun Lova"

 

[Laurel]

Well, we did use made up names to get out of the thanesport (or some of us did) Why not use those... almost start them as a backstory of thier own. THus we are bluestar/haters of the king and our allies just happen to always be in these bad spots as helping the king. Using other names will be hard for Kareth though, so if he can remember a made up name or just not tell anyone his we should be fine

As for bringing back the duke... yes... he was slain before his time, and may have info for us. There is a strong possibility he will see the unfinished buisness in this world, but we could just be burning one wish. He would be a cool ally and useful. As for the wish part of bringing back the duke... that is a chance we may have to take. Otherwise someone will have to carry him and that slows us down. Plus each day and if the body is not whole it takes a higher level caster to bring him back.

Would Archonus take the pain for the Duke? He will be without his chosen weapon, and with his status a target. I have not seen him fight with anything else, and I hate to say it, but he may only be proficient with Greyclaw which is missing.

 

[Archon]

As a point of fact, the Duke is not the only official in Oceanus that knows who you are.

Watch Commander Gordon is also aware of your true identities, and told the characters that stopped there as much. You can imagine that there are probably others in the watch that will know, as well.

Bear that in mind as you craft alter egos.

 

[The_Universe]

As a point of fact, the Duke is not the only official in Oceanus that knows who you are.

Watch Commander Gordon is also aware of your true identities, and told the characters that stopped there as much. You can imagine that there are probably others in the watch that will know, as well.

Bear that in mind as you craft alter egos.

The above is actually my post. I forgot to see who was logged in on my PC before I started posting.

Sorry Mik.

 

[Archon]

Archon the Bodyguard

for a second there i thought "dark" Archon was posting. that'd be weird.
anyway, answering L'Aurel's question, yes Archon will take his pain. that should help prove i'm not that bad of a herald(of the bluestar) once you get to know me.
as for our alter ego's, i say we avoid giving any names for now and wait till the duke is back. once he's back on his feet(in a living way not zombirific), we can consult with him and the watch commander. then the duke can introduce us to his people as our alter ego's during our victory celebration.
*wink, wink*
i looked into raising the duke. "wish" can duplicate a resurrection without endangering the fabric of reality. also, resurrection can be cast 10 days per caster level from the time of death. although the duke will suffer level loss(one).
mik - aka "The Real McCoy"